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  • Getting a realistic performance from MIDI instruments (p.3)
2014/06/13 13:52:55
tlw
bitflipper
Maybe somebody needs to add a MIDI OUT to a Theremin. Clara Blackmore had no issues with vibrato.


Moog's new theremini has MIDI out over USB.

Apparently it's based on Tim Blake's (currently a member of Hawkwind) setup which, for live performances at least, I understand to be a Moog etherwave controlling Minimonsta on a laptop via a pitch to MIDI convertor.

Mr Blake in action waving his arms about - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXIfLNeBqUw
2014/06/13 20:03:45
dmbaer
sharke
I have this fantasy about a motion sensor conductor's baton which would allow you to "conduct" a MIDI performance.



You're going to need to let your hair grow out if you want to pull that one off with panache. 
2014/06/14 10:34:10
b rock
sharke
I have this fantasy about a motion sensor conductor's baton which would allow you to "conduct" a MIDI performance.

To avoid drowsiness, skip ahead to about 5:35.
Arduino Nunchuck Baton Project - MIDI Controller
As a bonus, you can also defend yourself against attack from the audience.
2014/06/14 11:49:54
spacealf
This forum works about as well as midi does.
 
Sensors are already hooked up with outer orbit girl.
Gloves probably in 2015. Me make Music with Gloves. No that is her, not me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0lCL2hpRPM
 
No, actually.
And probably not all of it though.
 
2014/06/14 12:26:43
sharke
b rock
sharke
I have this fantasy about a motion sensor conductor's baton which would allow you to "conduct" a MIDI performance.

To avoid drowsiness, skip ahead to about 5:35.
Arduino Nunchuck Baton Project - MIDI Controller
As a bonus, you can also defend yourself against attack from the audience.




It's a start!
2014/06/15 17:19:56
dmbaer
The latest issue of Sound on Sound has an article about a new system developed by a PhD from the US who teaches in London at the moment.  It has sensors on key strips that you affix to the actual keys of any device you might have handy.  It cannot detect pressure or velocity, but reportedly excels at detecting movement of fingers on the keys (side to side is perfectly translated into vibrato) and front to back can be used for anything you want to control.
 
Apart from the key overlays needing to be attached, the main downside is the cost: 1200 pounds for an 88-key version.  But maybe it's the shape of things to come.  If some KB manufacturer integrates the technology into a mass produced KB that has a large economy of scale, this thing could really be a whole new ballgame performance-wise.
2014/06/16 15:23:06
davdud101
WOW. This thread is opening my eyes to what possibilities we really have with MIDI!! They're near endless :O
2014/06/16 16:09:35
yapweiliang
There are also non-music applications. :-)

I am now reading up more on the breath controllers. Tempted to try www.tecontrol.se
2014/06/16 16:43:59
Jeff Evans
The breath controller is quite something. If you blow smoothly and just get harder slowly over time that is what happens to the sound you are playing. It just gets louder and can open up a filter etc...or add vibrato under your breath control instead. Breath could be routed to any effect parameter too. Think of that!
 
But if you spit the attack of your breath or tounge a hard transient in the breath controller that can create exactly the same snappy attack transient in the sound you are playing. It is lightening fast too. But then blow smooth again and slowly increase the breath and the sounds goes all attack slow and smooth again.
 
Of course you have to set up the synth paramaters very much so to respond to all this stuff. It won't as soon as you connect a breath controller to something. Instructions need to given in terms of how the synth is receiving and responding to performance data.  (on the breath controller code)
2014/06/17 13:20:40
Tony S
I've had the TEControl UNI MIDI breath controller for several days now and am loving it.
I was unable to get it to work  USB only so plugged the MIDI cable into the MIDI Thru on my Kurzweil K2600.
 
I also bought the TEControl headset, which I wear like a harmonica holder.
There are learning curves both as to "pneumatic"set-up  with controllable, and to me, necessary, leakage, technique, and embrochure, and instrument set up. (No, I haven't got a good duduk,yet). I am starting to learn passable vibrato with it...think swishing mouthwash thru your teeth.
Total cost ~ 180 Euros, and I received the unit in about a week.
Total game changer, musically, and highly recommended..
 
Works fine with Omnisphere, Trilian and Kurzweil.
 
Will be setting up Alchemy and Kontakt soon.
Jeff: I love the ribbons on the Kurzweil as well.
(AND the delightful Imogen Heap).
 
Great thread. 
 
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