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  • Leap of faith: From Sonar X1d to Cubase 7 (p.13)
2013/06/18 07:40:45
dorism
backwoods
jimusic
Boy oh boy - I've been reading a 13 pager on KVR about Cubase 7.
 
Wow! Lots & lots of issues there!
 
I do realize that there are issues with each & every DAW and can be very user specific, and triggered by some 3rd party VSTs, computer configuration & customization, etc. etc., but holy smokes - some folks are really burning up over there! Ouch!!!





IMPOSSIBLE!!! 



whhhaaaatttt???

 
I'm moving back to X2 in that case!!
2013/06/18 07:47:47
dorism
The only crashes I've experienced in Cubase 7 were when inserting 32 bit plugins - at least the project didn't crash - just the plug-in itself.
 
I've now abandoned ship on most of my 32 bit VSTs and VSTis.
 
 
I'm pretty much 64 bit all the way - so far its been plain sailing. Everything is working without issue - no dropouts, no glitches, no crazy CPU spikes, and I'm getting predictable behaviour. Still miss smart tools and being able to use the track view as a mixing environment  - and I haven't found out yet how to bounce to track... 
2013/06/18 08:30:09
ltb
cecelius2
  HOWEVER, the last several post here have raised an important obstacle for me--the eLicense USB KEY.  This Steinberg USB eLicense Key would mean that I would have to run THREE dongles on my DAW:  1) an iLok2 for my Slate and Softube vsts; 2) another USB stick for Waves new licence system; and 3) this dedicated USB eLicense USB key for Steinberg.  This means three USB ports are required and tied up.  I am not sure I want to do that.
 



Many including myself use all 3. Actually with the fiasco & problems with iLok I more concerned with using that. I'd dump that in a heartbeat if I had to choose between the two as eLicenser also is needed for VSL.
2013/06/18 12:43:21
sharke
cecelius2
This is an interesting thread.  I am very happy with Sonar X2a, but would not mind having a second DAW program and Cubase 7 looks like it would be good.  After reading through this thread I took a harder look at Cubase 7 and found the new version appealing and the tutorials very well done.  HOWEVER, the last several post here have raised an important obstacle for me--the eLicense USB KEY.  This Steinberg USB eLicense Key would mean that I would have to run THREE dongles on my DAW:  1) an iLok2 for my Slate and Softube vsts; 2) another USB stick for Waves new licence system; and 3) this dedicated USB eLicense USB key for Steinberg.  This means three USB ports are required and tied up.  I am not sure I want to do that. If I were to switch I think Cubase 7 would probably be my choice, but Sonar x2a fits my needs for now and thankfully it does not require a USB key.  Just my musings on this topic.


I totally agree that dongles are a pain, but you can get self-powered USB hubs for a snip, meaning you could have all your dongles in one port.
2013/06/18 14:39:48
jimusic
sharke
cecelius2
This means three USB ports are required and tied up.  I am not sure I want to do that. 


I totally agree that dongles are a pain, but you can get self-powered USB hubs for a snip, meaning you could have all your dongles in one port.

Yes, I was going to suggest maybe an extra USB PCI card if you have the space, which is what I did for my FireWire. It gives me 3 ports on one card.
 
So maybe that would do it for you.
 
Myself, I only have one USB dongle for Waves, [but no ilok]. So I could live with one more.
 
When I built my dedicated DAW rig, I made sure I choose a MoBo that had enough USB ports.  
   
It even came with an additional 3-USB mini-hub that plugs right into the MoBo as well, if needed.
 
2013/06/18 14:48:01
Jim Roseberry
cecelius2
 This Steinberg USB eLicense Key would mean that I would have to run THREE dongles on my DAW:  1) an iLok2 for my Slate and Softube vsts; 2) another USB stick for Waves new licence system; and 3) this dedicated USB eLicense USB key for Steinberg.  This means three USB ports are required and tied up.  I am not sure I want to do that.




I've got those three dongles running on a little USB hub (inexpensive breakout cable variety - only takes a single USB port).  Works just fine...
2013/06/18 15:10:13
Studious
I'm curious how the dongle thing works for a mobile rig (laptop).  You must have them hanging off a laptop too?  And if they break, or are misplaced, then what?  You're screwed and can no longer use the software that requires them?
2013/06/18 19:47:14
cecelius2
Jim Roseberry
cecelius2
 This Steinberg USB eLicense Key would mean that I would have to run THREE dongles on my DAW:  1) an iLok2 for my Slate and Softube vsts; 2) another USB stick for Waves new licence system; and 3) this dedicated USB eLicense USB key for Steinberg.  This means three USB ports are required and tied up.  I am not sure I want to do that.




I've got those three dongles running on a little USB hub (inexpensive breakout cable variety - only takes a single USB port).  Works just fine...


Thanks for this suggestion made by you and others as well.  A little USB hub sounds like the way to go if and when I ever buy Cubase 7.  Having perused the other DAW options (PT, Studio One,Reason 7 and Cubase 7) the update to Cubase 7 looks attractive if I ever switch.  Again, i do not plan to do so, but have just been looking at what is available and Cubase 7 looks like it would fit my needs.  So thanks for the thread and thanks for the suggestion about a USB hub.
2013/06/19 01:51:35
mudgel
Is there a crossroads available; Sonar to Cubase?
2013/06/19 03:14:26
vespesian
Some have mentioned no FX per clip in C7 - but the way event/clip/part/region editing/processing/stretching is handled in C7, it makes FX-by-clip seem kinda dumbed-down (bascially, in Cubase, you can process a region/selection of...anything...with any number of fx/processes...with it's own 'undo' history - which you can undo out of order...in it's own dedicated sample editor...and drag/bounce/link in a plethora of ways). The amount of thought that must of gone into many aspects of this DAW is astounding.
 
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