2013/09/24 11:58:08
Beagle
bapu
Beagle, 
 
When Gibson sells CW to RonCo will you come back?


Now THAT'S a company I can invest in!
Do they have BECAN slicers?  can they make JULIEN fries with becan???
2013/09/24 12:41:48
UbiquitousBubba
But wait!  There's more!  If you order now, we'll throw in a fish scaler, a 25 piece knife set, new kitchen cabinets, and improved notation!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
(I'm sorry, your Honor.  I did not mean to incite a riot by mentioning "notation".)
 
(...or did I?)
2013/09/24 12:55:17
Starise
I'll do a dongle,I'll do a plug ... , even a bug. Software is software, that's what they say, bugs and dongles won't go away.As long as music is still being made I'll probably be one to upgrade.A discounted Gibson and a fair price might give me GAS and make me play nice. You see...I'm not hard to please if you treat me all right, X2 is great and I like it a lot. The pro channel rocks and music is made what else matters at the end of the day?
2013/09/24 12:56:41
bapu
Starise
what else matters at the end of the day?

Uhhhhh...................
BECAN?
2013/09/24 12:57:32
Rain
Haven't you read? Fender bought becan....
2013/09/24 13:01:58
Mesh
Rain
Haven't you read? Fender bought becan....


.....and now they're giving Gibson a run for their money with their new product......Laxcam.
2013/09/24 13:04:08
Starise
It sounds fast.
2013/09/24 13:13:20
drewfx1
Beagle
Jan - Gigastudio.  I invested a lot of money in Gigastudio and Tascam ran it in the ground.  I had GS3 and a lot of 3rd party libraries.  I never did buy GS4 when it came out, but was planning to eventually.  GS4 was only on the shelves a couple of months when Tascam announced it was a dead product.
 
So in order to update my library, I had to invest in Komplete and port as much of GS over to Komplete as I could.  not everything transferred and some of the stuff that did still wasn't correct (i.e. keyswitching on a lot of instruments didn't work any more).
 
I could have just continued to use GS as is, but it had problems which needed to be fixed anyway, which I had hoped that GS4 would have solved.  part of the problem, however, was that the key gen needed to install it was flakey.  it required an answer / call to the server for installation and I was afraid that the support for that would eventually go away.
 
TASCAM had "acquired" GS from another company, can't remember the name right now.  they got rid of that company's management and most of the programmers then they designed GS2 & 3 themselves.  running the company into the ground by the time GS4 was released.
 
writing on the wall...




GS was a disaster waiting to happen when Tascam bought it and then they mishandled it badly.
 
All of the crazy, low level stuff that were necessary to make GS work at all became completely unnecessary with faster computers, which essentially meant that a total rewrite was necessary.
 
What Tascam missed was that when competition arrived what people really cared about were the sample libraries. NI actively recruited content partners and included a much larger real sample library with Kontakt while GS always included mostly demo content with everything at unreasonable prices. 
 
The magic of GS was that it worked at all in the days of Pentium3 computers running Win98. The GS name was all Tascam really had once competition arrived and a name won't get you far in a rapidly changing competitive SW environment. Even though Tascam completely booted it, it would have been hard for GS to survive all of the new competition they faced under any circumstances.
 
 
But I don't get the impression that Tascam will be running Cakewalk anyway.
 
And it's not clear what Gibson intends. It could be another GS-style disaster or another lackluster version of Roland/CW or Sony/SonicFoundry. Or it could be Apple/emagic too - where Apple really wanted something in Logic (but only the Mac version of course), which they both cannibalized (Garageband) but also actively continued to support and develop (while dropping everything else emagic did).
 
The big question is whether Gibson wants to continue CW as it is, focus on only one piece and slowly or rapidly kill everything else, or cannibalize things in some way, maybe the Les Paul Sonar - the first guitar with a built in DAW (or DAW integration) - I wouldn't put this kind of thing past Gibson, given their largely unsuccessful attempts to create high tech guitars like the Darkfire: 
 
http://www2.gibson.com/Pr...son-USA/Dark-Fire.aspx
2013/09/24 15:23:36
Beagle
I cannot argue your points Drew, but it still doesn't change the fact that they DID give up on it and it WAS mismanaged in a big way.  Maybe they would have had to rewrite from scratch because the GSIF and other driver relationships weren't necessary with faster computers, but why didn't they?  they were charging enough money for even updates that they could have rewritten as much as they needed to in order to make it work.
 
your points are valid but they still don't relieve the fact that Tascam killed GS and bottom line meant that I had to pay more for the same product (GS3 won't work in win7, so if I wanted to keep my libraries, then I had to port over to Kontakt).
 
plus, I still contend that Tascam can't even write solid hardware drivers.  the early hardware drivers for the Tascam usb soundcards were so crappy that almost no one could get them to work.  Yes, they've improved since then, but they still haven't hit a home run with the drivers, either.  there are still new users of the new tascam soundcards who have returned the product because the drivers wouldn't work.
 
Seth reiterated that this is currently a distribution with a "name" only at this time in another thread.  however, for people like me who were burned by Tascam this doesn't improve the "branding" at all, it tarnishes it.
2013/09/24 15:26:23
Beagle
Rain
Haven't you read? Fender bought becan....


NOOOOO!!! SAY IT AIN'T SOOOOO!!!!
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