2013/06/23 08:42:19
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2013/06/23 10:49:26
Cookie Jarvis
I have 64-bit and 32-bit plugins installed on my 64-bit system and here's how I handle them.
 
The 64-bit plugs are in C: Program Files\Cakewalk\VST Plugins and the 32-bit plugs are in C: Program Files(x86)\Cakewalk\VST Plugins. I run Sonar X2 as 64 bit so even though I have both locations in Cakewalk Plugin Manager I only have it load the 64-bit version of any dual install plugins...between the two the 64-bit plugs will be generally more stable in a 64-bit environment(by default your 32-bit plugs will use Bitbridge unless you have purchased jBridge and use that instead) and can utilize more memory.
 
I also have a 32-bit install of Sound Forge( no 64-bit available as of the current version- 10.0e) and it automatically sees all the 32-bit plugs but not the 64-bit ones. As more and more apps and plugins move to 64-bit the need to bridge 32-bit will disappear and everything will become a lot more stable, but right now we're in a transition period so hang on!
 
Bill
2013/06/23 11:01:28
bitflipper
Use the registry editor to examine the current VST inventory (...\cakewalk music software\sonar producer\cakewalk vst\inventory). Each VST has a binary DWORD value named "isX64", indicating whether or not it's a 64-bit plugin.
2013/06/23 11:29:04
dcumpian
I do what Bill does, except that I do not include the 32bit path in Sonar's plugin manager. If I ever install a 32bit-only plugin, I install it to a subfolder of the 32bit plugins folder and only add that folder to the plugin manager. Sonar doesn't even know that those other 32bit plugins are installed.
 
Regards,
Dan
2013/06/23 12:22:52
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2013/06/23 14:20:17
bapu
mike_mccue
I'm just starting to load up all the VSTs on my new x64 system.
 
I picked two easy ones to start with.
 
I installed both the 32 and 64 bit versions of SleepyTimes Lisp
 
I installed both the 32 and 64 bit versions of Valhalla Room.
 
The 64bit dlls are in C:\Programs\Vstplugins\
 
The 32bit dlls are in C:\Programs (x86)\Vstplugins
 
The files each have a unique file name.
 
Cakewalk Plugin Manager sees both versions of the Lisp but only the 64bit version of Valhalla Room.
 
 
Any ideas?
 
I haven't done anything about setting up a bridge... I don't know if I'm supposed to or not... etc.
 
Thanks.
 
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
 




Why oh why do you want SONAR 64bit to see 32bit plugs when you have a 64bit version?
 
I have 3 install locations.
 
c:\Program Files\vstplugins <------ 64bit
c:\Program Files(x86)\vstplugins32 <---- 32bit only (where no 64bit exists)
c:\Program Files(x86)\vstplugins <---- 32bit (where 64bit exists)
 
The top two locations are looked at by SONAR 64bit
The bottom two locations are looked at by SONAR 32bit
 
HTH
2013/06/23 15:36:57
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2013/06/23 16:50:16
TheSteven
Hi Mike,
 
You didn't mention what version of Sonar you are using but it sounds like X2.
X2 does a much better job of discriminating between 32/64 bit plug-ins but still has issues.
 
The problem is this case is that Cakewalk's VST scanner has assigned the both versions of Valhalla the same CLSID # (the main way Sonar uses to differentiate plug-ins) and when this happens Cakewalk's plug-in manager only shows one of them.

With X2 the **64 bit version shows (at least in the cases I've bothered checking) but in previous versions of Sonar it could refer to either the 32 bit or 64 bit version - it probably had to do with which appears first or last in the registry but for all intents and purposes it appears to be random.
**edit & correction - see image below

 
There are 2 ways to deal with this.
  • Eliminate one of the plug-ins (prevent the scanner from seeing it) by using one of techniques mentioned previously in this thread.
    I consider this cleanest way of handling the 32/64 plug-in issue and if you have a lot of plug-ins this will help keep you from hitting the maximum plug-in number limitation as quickly.
  • Use a 3rd party tool (such a *MenuMagic).  *disclosure -MenuMagic is my retail creation and this is one of the things it can do.
    If you need to/want to be able to choose between using with the 32 bit or 64 bit version of a plug-in (or don't want to bother having to separate them) then you need to use this option.
...Steven
2013/06/23 17:11:41
TheSteven
Update content of previous post and added images...
2013/06/23 17:15:09
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