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2013/06/15 17:08:52
The Maillard Reaction
 
You see, you are arguing about it again.
 
If the number of people that don't like it is so small why can't you guys do the easy thing and let the few of us be happy customers by helping us out?
 
If you are going to argue you should at least attempt to do it well.
 
For example; the statement "Most musicians that try it love it." may be 100% factual but it is also meaningless in the context of a comparison.
 
You are employing the Argumentum ad populum fallacy. Your statement isn't persuasive. and your use of it makes you look like you are not really prepared for the debate you have perpetuated with your contrary responses.
 
You may stop using annoying invalid arguments.
 
I may stop pointing out that arguing when you can be listening is a bad habit.
 
I was surprised that you couldn't figure it out... but now I have figured out that you may not be planning on figuring it out.
 
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
2013/06/16 05:28:44
wizard71
This is the most ridiculous argument. It's not like you are forced to use custom shop every time you open your DAW and use an IK plugin. Any business has the right to run it exactly how they want and they aren't going to listen to an incedibly tiny minority.... Why should they?

This constant 'Obi bashing' mentality is boring. Make your point then move on. Seriously.
2013/06/16 07:16:23
The Maillard Reaction
 
Well OK, I'll go ahead and add this comment :-)
 
This statement: "Its better than iLok IMO, but to each their own...."
 
Is based on another classic fallacy and it is known as the "False Dilemma". It is another invalid statement when used in a context where many options are available and you are attempting to use the statement to proffer your choice as the best.
 
Using a False Dilemma in a presentation makes one look eager... well, that's about the only thing good you can say.
 
When people employ ill logic to attempt to be persuasive, people that are actually paying attention to the presentation are likely to seem offended.
 
It is as if they have just been treated like they weren't paying attention, and some people react by paying even more attention.
 
I'm glad I live a in a country where we celebrate free speech.
 
 
 
 
I've watched Obi argue with numerous customers here at his spam roost and I have ignored it because it is none of my business.
 
Obi choose to argue with me, I choose to argue back. 
 
Fair is fair. :-)
 
 
best regards,
mike
 
2013/06/18 17:06:43
IK Obi
@Wizard71 Thanks for the help, but the block lists exists for a reason. No need to feed the trolls.
2013/06/18 23:20:24
Eddie TX
wizard71
This is the most ridiculous argument. It's not like you are forced to use custom shop every time you open your DAW and use an IK plugin. Any business has the right to run it exactly how they want and they aren't going to listen to an incedibly tiny minority.... Why should they?

This constant 'Obi bashing' mentality is boring. Make your point then move on. Seriously.


I'm not one to "bash" anyone personally -- I think it's cool that IK Obi posts here.  I mean, if he didn't alert us to IK's deals, someone else would have to.  Speaking of which, I don't think anyone's yet mentioned the current IK specials on their compressors, which are EXCELLENT and a GREAT DEAL right now.  See, I'm not anti-IK.  :-)
 
However, I don't think it's improper to voice one's opinion about the way IK sells its products.  No other plugin company that I know of makes you download and run a "store" in order to demo and purchase things.  While I'll admit that the Custom Shop is pretty neat for Amplitube, I think it makes less sense for the T-RackS side, where there are fewer products and the prices are higher.  And having a more straightforward pricing system, without the confusing Credits, Jam Points, etc. couldn't hurt. 
 
Anyway, if the alternative to CS is iLok, then I'll happily live with it ... recent events have turned me against PACE for the foreseeable future. 
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2013/06/18 23:52:39
michaelhanson
Actually, I just picked up the Fender Collection after demoing it for several days. Very nice tones.
2013/06/19 10:11:31
clintmartin
The Fender collection is all I've been using for awhile. My real Fender twin has become an end table. My favs are the Deluxe reverb and the Super-Sonic. I almost bought a Super-Sonic once...I should have. I do wish IK would make the oxblood version.
2013/06/19 19:38:45
IK Obi
Thanks for the Fender love guys! Today is the last day to get in on these promos. We also do have a compressor promo going on like Eddie TX mentioned here: http://www.ikmultimedia.c...pp=50&item_id=2623
2013/06/21 14:27:39
MarioD
I picked up both pieces of software. Based on what I heard here I should be able to mimic the sound of my old Fender Super Reverb. I just haven’t had time to play with them yet!
 
2013/06/24 08:03:32
IK Obi
Easily and you'll love the tone you get with it too!
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