2013/09/02 02:06:57
lawajava
The only thing all this powerful music software can't help with is cranking out meaningful, creative lyrics. Old fashioned elbow grease still applies.

Sometimes the lyrics just flow, and sometimes the well is just dry.

Tonight I'm frustrated because the music sounds good for a particular song, but my lyrics for it so far are really awful.

i'll get the words in shape soon somehow. It's a pain in the rear.
2013/09/02 02:23:36
bapu
All my words are a pain in the rear.
Just wish that someone here could hear.
How it's like driving my car stuck in 1st gear
To make up these words, was a pain in the rear.
 
2013/09/02 05:44:27
ProjectM
I'm thinking of quiting music and audio and become a full time writer.
 
 
 
 
(I need coffee...)
2013/09/02 09:51:34
Guitarhacker
Lyric writing is an art all to itself..... just as playing an instrument is an art. It took time and that equates to many hours over days and weeks and months and years to become proficient on a given instrument, the same thing applies to lyric writing. It is a learned skill. The more you write the better you get at it.  I'll wager that when you started playing an instrument, you probably spent several hours a day, every day, learning to play better...... after a few years, you were pretty decent with that instrument. Same thing applies with lyrics and crafting them.
 
Granted, some folks seem to have a talent for writing (or playing) but they still can get better by writing. The guys and girls who are writing the hits have been working hard at developing their skill at crafting lyrics generally for years before they have a cut that becomes a hit song. Very few are true "overnight" successes. Look into their history and you will find years of trial and error in their past.
 
Also, the hit writers are writing every day.... not just when the "muse" hits them on a blue moon Saturday. Jeffery Steele, country music mega hit writer (over 24 #1 billboard hits) writes every day and his goal is to write at least one complete song in that one day writing session. He commented that in a given year, he might end up with 2 or 3 songs that are potential hit material. The rest are just stepping stones on the journey.
 
Lyric writing is the hardest part of any song for me. So I often will team up with another writer who is stronger in the lyric writing and lyric idea department. Between us, we can turn out some pretty decent tunes lyrically and musically.
 
You may wish to connect with a co-writer on the lyrics. It works for me, and I read somewhere that 90% of the hits are all co-written with at least 2 writers on the project.
2013/09/02 09:57:24
Rimshot
Whatever you do - write from your own experience.  As long as the lyric has meaning to you, others may find meaning in it for their own lives too.  Put color in it and don't be afraid to describe the environment where the story is told.  These are just some things to consider when you are stumped.
 
Rimshot
 
2013/09/02 10:53:54
sharke
You could always try an online lyric generator. This one generates lyrics in the style of your choosing according to some topics and phrases that you enter. 
 
http://www.song-lyrics-generator.org.uk
 
Here's my song in the style of Britney Spears. 
 

Spank Me With A Tennis Racket Richard Simmons One More Time
    - In the Style of Britney Spears

by Beef Wellington
Oh honey bee, honey bee!
Oh Richard Simmons, Richard Simmons!
I must confess,
I still believe (still believe),
I am God's gift to women!
Give me a sign,
Spank me with a tennis racket Richard Simmons one more time!

Oh honey bee, honey bee!
Oh Rosanne Barr, Rosanne Barr!
I'm addicted to you.
Don't you know that you're bloated!
And I love what you do.
Don't you know that you're bloated!

Oh honey bee, honey bee!
Oh Ice Tea, Ice Tea!
I think I did it again,
I made you believe The moon exists,
Oh Ice Tea!
To paint myself yellow like that is just so typically me.
Oh honey bee, honey bee!

Holy crap!.. I did it again!
I burned my house down!

Oh honey bee, honey bee!
Oh Tweetie Pie, Tweetie Pie!
I think I made you believe X2b will ever be released.
Holy crap!.. You think X2b will ever be released.

Oh honey bee, honey bee!
I'm not that hairy!
You see my problem is this,
I can never get soft boiled eggs right,
Wishing I had an ass like Kylie Minogue.

Oh honey bee, honey bee!
Oh Richard Simmons, Richard Simmons!
Oh Rosanne Barr, Rosanne Barr!
Oh Ice Tea, Ice Tea!
Oh Tweetie Pie, Tweetie Pie!
I must confess,
I still believe (still believe),
I am God's gift to women!
Give me a sign,
Spank me with a tennis racket Richard Simmons one more time!
2013/09/02 17:03:18
craigb
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Lyrics are hard.
2013/09/02 17:33:34
lawajava
Yes to all the thoughts shared. Some folks are gifted or at least prolific with lyrics.

In my humble scenario, I'm the do it all. From learning the many details of audio engineering through actually playing some instruments and songwriting and singing. None of the real magic happens until the singing, in which case I also cough up the lyrics. Presently I'm drawing a blank on this one song. That's why I'm Grrr-ing.
2013/09/02 19:24:22
craigb
I remember hearing about ELO where the music always came first then Jeff would kinda make up the lyrics on the spot...  Must be nice.  I've written some decent lyrics, but it's far more formulaic for me than spontaneous.
 
I've noticed that people who are very emotional (I'm not) tend to make the best lyrics.  JMHO naturally!
2013/09/02 23:44:14
yorolpal
My advice is to remember that lyric/song writing is first and foremost...a craft. Once you master the craft, the art comes much easier. Songwriting should be linear. Each new line should logically follow the line before it. This holds true whether you are writing a "story" song or not. Things need to make sense. And be universal. Writing from "personal experience" will only get you as far as...well...your personal experience. Like movies there are really only a handful of stories to be told...the most ubiquitous being get a guy, get a gal, get em up a tree, shake a stick at em, then get em down. That's craft. One prominent Nashville writer explained an exercise he uses like this: "there's a bible lying on the bedside table...there's a a dusty, ragged bible lying on the bedside table...there's a dusty, ragged bible and a glass of gin lying on the bedside table". You get the picture. Each new image deepens the story and adds complexity while still maintaining universality. It's totally a learnable skill. But..of course...the great ones have inate talent as well. Good luck. Keep writing, ol pal. And don't give up.
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