I have created/entered notes in staff view for a quintet score of winds, and it sounds great.
Except: The flute part/track is a bit off key.
 
Is there any way to quantize a whole track so that I can move UP the pitch of the entire track by a few Hertz (micro frequency)?
 
Thank you for any help.
 
ps. Thanks to those who helped me with recording/playback problems where there were a lot of clicks and pops. I'm using a PC onboard sound chip, and your suggestion to "bounce to track", creating a new audio track, seems to work great. The key is to enter all the notes in staff view, bounce to audio track, then mute the original track. That works so great! Thank you!
 

quantize is for moving the notes horizontally in the time line to match up with the beat...... 

making a pitch change is a bit different..... and the answer is yes and no. It will depend greatly on the synth you are using. Some synths are tune-able by half steps only.....

Some synths are in fact tune-able by semitones....one hertz at a time. It would be a function in the synth itself if that is possible. 

I have encountered synths that are slightly off key on some notes and it is very irritating. 

Another option for you if the synth is the non-tune-able kind: Bounce the track to audio and use something like Melodyne on the track. With melodyne, you can load the track into melodyne and allow it to auto correct to the closest pitch..... and then you can also tweeze that manually by extremely small  increments to get the pitch perfect.  

What synth are you using to voice the winds? 

Guitarhacker

What synth are you using to voice the winds? 

Using florestan_woodwinds.sf2. GREAT sounds, freely available on the web.

ok, then you are using MIDI.  the way you worded it, Herb was thinking you were talking about audio, which is completely different.

MIDI has notes you enter or record which triggers the sounds you hear, but it's much easier to edit MIDI notes than it is audio.

to edit the pitch of MIDI notes, open the PRV (piano roll view) of the MIDI track you're working on and click on a note and drag it where you want it.  you can edit the pitch or the timing this way.

however, if you want to quantize (timing) you can select several of the notes and use the MIDI FX processing to quantize them to a particular time.  select them, then right click somewhere (not directly on a note) and choose MIDI FX>CAKEWALK>QUANTIZE I think - I don't ever do this so I'm going from rough memory.

you can also transpose an entire track by chromatic, diatonic or other options.

select the whole track, in the PRV and then righ click and choose the option for TRANSPOSE

you will then have options to choose from on how much to move the notes up or down by.

no Beagle... I knew he was talking about midi....   

Quantize is a midi function used to alighn notes horizontally in the time line to a specific beat... but you know what it is.... 

He was talking about adjusting the frequency of a note. Not by half steps but by the semitone as opposed to half steps. Some synths have that ability and many do not....   I want to say Kontakt has it but it is accessed from inside the synth main screen.

So he's using SFZ.... I don't think it has the ability to adjust pitch by hertz ...one at a time....I think it's only half steps musically to a fixed reference. (A-440 most likely) I would have to re-load SFZ to confirm this since I don't have it on my new DAW.... 

Dragging notes in PRV will only land you ON the semi tone..... not somewhere in between which is apparently what he is looking to do on perhaps a few notes that may not have been sampled correctly. 

I should have asked: What version of Music Creator he is using....since MC5 & 6 both have the Cake Sound Center and it has a flute in it if I recall which I have used (I think... unless I'm confusing it with Kontakt) and the notes in it are pretty much dead on pitch. 

I will have to check out the transpose option..... does it allow specific "by hertz" adjustments? 


I suggested melodyne because with it, you could bounce to audio and then "fix" the one or two notes that he says were off ....very easy....or move the entire track by a few hertz...again very easy in melodyne.  Sorry to confuse the issue. 

I am using MC5 (sorry, thought I said that already)
Apparently MC5 has a built-in dialog screen called rgcaudio sfz+.
Clicking [+] [Instrument Track] [rgcaudio sfz+] brings up the following dialog.
One then clicks [FILE] to get the .sf2 file, and in this case, clicking repeatedly in the program box shows the sound fonts available from the file.
Please notice that there are two "pitch" sliders: one for the low frequency oscillator (mod lfo) and one called "mod eg".
ALSO there is s control in the "Master Selection" box that says "tune".
There doesn't seem to be any help for this dialog, so haven't a clue about how to use it.
Fiddling with the three sliders appears to have no affect on the track or synth.
 
 

Pitch and tune might adjust the master tuning, but I have not used this synth so I do not know what the amount of adjustment would be or how to make it apply to the patch you are using. 

Have you tried the Sound center? I think it has flute in it..... 

I am quite busy and do not have a lot of time to play with a synth that I have not used...... maybe Beagle will be along shortly to answer this 

sorry herb - I didn't read your post correctly.  my bad.

dave - those are for adjusting oscillators, not the full pitch.  try it, you'll see what it does to the sound (and it will do different things to different patches)

if you want to adjust the pitch by something smaller than 1/2 step, then yes, use the slider on the MASTER section for TUNE.  IIRC it will adjust up to 1/2 step up or down, but the further away from center you get, the more artifacts you'll introduce in the sound and the worse it will sound.

but that's exactly what that TUNE slider is for.

if you DO want to change the pitch by 1/2 step or more, tho, don't use the slider, use the MIDI FX like I described above.

The problem you will have with the master tune is that is does affect the tuning of the entire track.....all the notes will be changed by whatever amount you move that slider. 

So, if I understand correctly, the problem you are having is that only certain notes are out of tune, but the rest are in tune and OK.   Is that correct? 

If so, the problem is in the samples or the patches. They were programmed or recorded (if samples) in a less than ideal manner resulting in slight tuning variations. 

The solution is: 

1 use better samples that are in tune all the way through..... sound center or some other synth with flutes.

2. clone the track..... then move the pitch on the clone to make just those notes in tune.... use envelopes to pull faders down in the original track on those notes and up in the clone track(s) as needed to make the parts play in tune.  Not as hard as it sounds, but it is labor intensive depending on how often that note is played. 

3. Or.....render it to audio. Then use melodyne or another audio pitch correction software to "fix" the bad notes. 



 try the other things first  (1&2) if that doesn't work get a demo version of Melodyne and IIRC it runs as a full version for 10 days. use melodyne to fix it. and bounce it or process audio to remove melodyne FX from the track.