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  • General tips on doubling guitar parts? (p.6)
2015/02/12 07:18:21
RobertB
Thanks for looking at that. Yeah, I might have to learn how to use Melodyne.
And thanks for the additional comments on acoustic vs dirty electric tracks.
I can attest to the note on midrange congestion, and the earlier version of this sounded kind of boxy.
And maintaining the dynamics did take a different touch.
Good info, as always.
2015/02/12 11:41:30
batsbrew
MELODYNE  = CLOWNPHUCKING.
 

 
just do it the right way.
so much better.
 
 
2015/02/12 11:42:35
batsbrew
mic positioning, proximity effect, and proper gain staging takes care of low end issues with mics.
mostly.
not always.
 
 
2015/03/06 16:55:03
garyhb
Hi,
Just to chime in and add a little...
 
Re: Danni's points - I agree entirely. I also teach audio production and regularly see students soloing a track to get a tone and then can't make it blend! Time taken over micing to capture a great recording first will be far easier to blend and balance up with less processing needed...
 
Are two different guitars are better than one doubled? Generally yes IMHO, even with fancy processing! The reason is the harmonic structure of both will be different and therefore less likely to be completely in phase or 180 degrees out of phase which causes boosts and cuts on matching frequencies.
 
Hope it worked out for you !
 
Gary
2015/03/06 16:59:31
batsbrew
the problem here,
is half the people are referring to copying a guitar track, and panning it (or more trickery) and calling this 'doubling'.....
 
and the other half are talking about two discrete performances of the same thing, and blending those, and calling THAT 'doubling'
 
 
two completely different things here.
somehow, you have to differentiate.
2015/03/08 12:39:36
Beepster
batsbrew
the problem here,
is half the people are referring to copying a guitar track, and panning it (or more trickery) and calling this 'doubling'.....
 
and the other half are talking about two discrete performances of the same thing, and blending those, and calling THAT 'doubling'
 
 
two completely different things here.
somehow, you have to differentiate.




Actually only Afrodrum referred to cloning as doubling and he was talking about using time/pitch shifting tools to alter the second track to artificially mimic a real double so not really the same as a straight clone.
 
True doubles are ideal for sure but as I experiment with all this more sometimes the clone/Haas trick is better for some things. Haven't really dug into the pitch/timing altering tricks too much yet but I'm sure in some cases that could be cool too.
 
Anyway, I have been doing extensive work on a guitar thick project I've been poking at of and on for quite a while now and will be reviewing everything Danny posted. Just trying out some very rudimentary rough mixes of the stauff I already have tracked and I think I'm getting it. Still have some extra layers to lay down but this will be a good run through of those concepts for me.
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