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2015/02/24 19:20:25
sharke
rumleymusic
I use the K&M adjustable bar for cardioid patterns (the sliding one, not the bending arm one).  It has a 3/8" euro thread instead of the 5/8" US standard, so you would have to use the thread adapters that usually come with mic clips.  If you need extra spacing to overlap the mics, you can always use a combination of thread adapters like a 3/8 female to 5/8 male adapter inside a 5/8 female to 3/8 male adapter.  That will give you the appropriate height and only costs a couple bucks.   




Is there enough thread to raise a microphone? I'm guessing you'd need about 1.5"-2"?
2015/02/24 19:54:12
pentimentosound
There are 6" goosenecks like these
http://www.wwbw.com/On-St...;kwid=productads-plaid^85460543922-sku^276001.001.104@ADL4WWBW-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^48681270021
 
So, I suppose with a little search there are probably other adapters that could give you different heights. Like maybe these could be made to work with certain others above.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Micro2Retro?adpos=1o4&creative=55673940721&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CIKykIXw-8MCFZGIaQod51MAiA
or this
 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MM01
 
You might explore quick release adapters, too.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/QK2B
 
I used to have a bunch of these kinds of things, but they're long gone now (2008 + Chap7). I suppose Sweetwater or Full Compass or B&H would be good places to look.
Michael
 
 
2015/02/24 20:00:51
pentimentosound
This Shure stereo mic adapter is pretty interesting, too, but more than your $50. You could probably get it cheaper.
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/305049.html
 
This is kind of fun, like a refresher course for me. I don't have any pairs of mics, yet, but plan to and these kind of bars/adapters are good to know about, even for trying out my mics with the Gold Digger and Cherry Picker.
 
Michael
2015/02/24 21:05:31
rumleymusic
Is there enough thread to raise a microphone? I'm guessing you'd need about 1.5"-2"?

 
Raisers only need to be half an inch for the mics to cross at the same angle, the standard diameter of most SDC's.  The capsules should be as close as possible.  
2015/02/24 23:08:31
sharke
rumleymusic
Is there enough thread to raise a microphone? I'm guessing you'd need about 1.5"-2"?

 
Raisers only need to be half an inch for the mics to cross at the same angle, the standard diameter of most SDC's.  The capsules should be as close as possible.  




Ah I guess my guesstimate was way off! I'm actually thinking of buying a pair of AT 4041's and I see the diameter is 0.83". 
2015/02/25 07:36:40
pentimentosound
I've read about them, but haven't got to try them, yet. I found these...
http://www.zzounds.com/item--AUTAT4041SP?siid=75245&gclid=CML29P-H_cMCFQguaQodrqcAkg
 
I had/really liked pairs of AKG C480b/uls CK61 and SM81's(long gone). I've replaced one of the C480's and then got very interested in the Mojave MA101fet. So, now I have to decide which of those (current) SDC's to get a mate for first. I'm still tempted to get another set of the Shure's. On certain acoustic guitars, they worked great, but I have new/different ones now, and so it's back to the "drawing board".
       With this new Warm Audio TB12 and the Hardy 990C+ I plan to put in it, I'll be back to exploring what works best on which guitar(and of that depends on the song/key/flavor, etc). Stereo pairs are a lot of fun!
2015/03/04 23:04:20
mudgel
When it comes to Blumlein bars the heavier the better but you need a strong stand with a good wide spread on the tripod part to allow balancing the weight of the bar and the Mics you use.
2015/03/05 09:31:26
pentimentosound
Ditto! I used to use weights on my tripods, but decided against them. 15 years ago, I bought 3 of those OnStage large studio booms with the 4 legs that can be folded in for storage, but wont' replace them(long gone).
    The Atlas SB36W are out my budget at the moment, so I've got the first (of two) of these; On-Stage SMS7650 the ones with the triangular bass like the Atlas. I figured I'd test one out and decide "after the fact".
Michael
2015/03/05 12:09:12
rumleymusic
Strong stands are an important investment to protect your mics.  I have the On Stage tall stand with heavy Iron base, and it does a good job.  I have abused it to death on the road and it has held up well.  If I need to extend the boom out horizontally with a heavy pair of mics I do use sand bags to reinforce the base.  It is no Latch Lake though.  

Most of the time I will use tall aluminum light stands for ensemble recording.  Since they only weigh a pound or two, I always drape a 35 pound sandbag over the pole at the legs before extending it.  You would need a running tackle to knock the thing over.  I think it is important not to cheap out on stands, if I am going to stick a $4000 pair of mics 13 feet in the air, I want to make darn sure whatever is keeping them up there is equal to the task.  
2015/03/05 12:48:54
pentimentosound
Yeah, I learned that the hard way. My first AT4033 (first session with my first "good" condenser) got knocked over by an experienced singer who wasn't paying attention. I, however, did and immediately got an assortment of weights for my tripods and went shopping for better stands. The OnStage with the fold up legs were next and an improvement, but very clunky.
The Atlas would be the top for me, but I am not familiar with Latch Lake, so I will check them out. Thanks
Michael
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