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  • Turn off reverb on plugins before mixing? (p.2)
2015/03/07 01:16:15
czyky
All good advice for Doug. Listening to your tracks on Soundclick, Doug, you really don't need to worry. Just do more of what you're doing. If you DO want to try the strip-off-the-canned-reverb-for-each-track-and-apply-a-master-reverb-on-a-bus-instead approach, I'm thinking maybe try that in "Slide Into" and "Like Old Times" for example. Your mixes certainly aren't muddy, they're fine (nice guitar spread in "nothing in common" and your vocal harmonies are jes' lovely--jes' sayin'), but sometimes I think the different instruments (like in "Old Times" for example) don't sound like they're in the same (virtual) room. Which may or may not be okay with you, but maybe you could try to put your elements into the same space with the above-posted suggestions and see what you think. (Another fer instance: You have an effective echo on your vocal in "Mr. Lonelyhearts", maybe that echo vibe could/should carry to other elements in the song as well, as in a master reverb? Or, should the other elements be bone dry, to let that vocal echo sing out, so to speak? Or should...well, I could go on all night with the "or shoulds" but a) the family cat is bugging me to feed her and b) that's YOUR job ) Try it with a remix of something you've already done, or--even better--try it with your next NEW piece and let us hear it!
2015/03/07 09:09:41
DougCPilot
Thanks to all for the input. You've got me thinking about aspects that I haven't considered. Normally I'm going for a natural sounding mix but my prog rock influences have me throwing in curve balls occasionally.
 
Adam, Mark (sorry), thanks for taking the time to listen to some of my songs. Most of those are pretty old and I don't have the raw tracks, so I can't go back and try a remix. Plus, I'd rather look forward. (BTW, feeding the cats is also my job!)
 
Right now I'm trying to finish up a brand new song that's a much simpler arrangement- (Cakewalk-SI) drums, rhythm guitar, (synth) flute, and lead vocal. In keeping with my usual "can't leave well enough alone" habit, I also recorded a bunch of harmony and background vocals for the last verse, chorus, and fadeout. I'm debating whether I want to keep them or not. The song has a nice casual feel throughout without them, but when they come in I can't decide whether it sounds really cool or really dated (think the band America, who I loved back in the 70's.) I think I'll post both versions and "let the people decide".
 
Anyway, I think I'll try freezing those synths dry and using a common reverb for all of the elements to try and get a live recording feel.
 
A question: I'm also just now exploring the virtues of using busses, so correct me if this is wrong: The way to do this would be to have a bus just for the "room" verb (with the mix set to 100% wet) and then route the other busses to the room bus using the aux sends, post fader? That way I can control the overall amount of reverb with that one fader independent of everything else?
 
 
Doug
2015/03/07 17:05:12
AT
Yes, that is how you set up a post fader fader.  The send could be on either tracks or busses, but keep track of which is which.  Double reverb on a guitar track and guitar buss might be too much.
 
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