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  • Fear of upgrading from win8 to win8.1 (p.3)
2015/05/23 21:06:18
Keni
Thanks Gang...

With my current internet limitations, I've kind of put this off... Go directly to 10? Good planning with this web limits, but how long?

I might try the 8.1 update if I can be awake at the right time... But then I'm wondering how good an idea is it to do this on battery? My limited download access is from 3-8am, but I only have electric from 8pm-12am... Sheesh... What a load of issues! ;-)

Keni
2015/05/23 21:49:00
TerraSin
At this point you may as well wait for 10. I've been debating reinstalling Windows 8.1 on the studio computer but with 10 right around the corner, I'll just be formatting again so there is really no point right now. I'm hoping that companies will be on the ball with drivers and there shouldn't be any issues with software.
 
I've always been an early adopter of new Windows versions even on the larger, more dramatic ones like Vista and 8. Never once had a major issue with doing so.
2015/05/24 01:22:03
Keni
Actually I've always moved ahead as money allowed...

...until win8 which I don't really like. I only have it because I was gifted the laptop with it... Which has an I-5 quad.

When I saw the upgrade to 8.1 notice, there were so many warnings that I thought I'd ask around a bit as its so hard for me to download things these days.

When is win10 supposed to release?

Thanks!
Keni
2015/05/24 04:41:53
TerraSin
So far they are saying the end of July but nothing is confirmed. It will depend on how the rest of the development phase goes. The latest patch to the developer preview I heard screwed a couple things up. We should see a release candidate next month though.
2015/05/24 11:54:28
Keni
Thanks TeraSin...

That sounds good... I believe I can wait though I'm wondering if there might be a sudden reason to not want 10 and not able to get 8.1?

I seem to recall some talk about update models that's expected to change with 10?

Keni
2015/05/24 14:31:55
paulo
I didn't get a choice in the end. Having declined the opportunity to upgrade on several occasions because I was pretty much happy with w8 as it was, my laptop one day told me it was going to do the upgrade to 8.1, gave me 5 minutes save what I was working on and then just did it and there was no way (that I knew of) to stop it. To say I was unhappy about that is something of an understatement.
 
It took about an hour with various restarts and to be fair has worked perfectly fine since, but then again, it did before as far as I was concerned. W10 looks like something of a backward step to me, so I can't see me doing that unless I have to for some reason and preferably not because MS have taken it upon themselves to decide that I am having it whether I want it or not.
 
Still can't believe they really did that.
2015/05/24 17:16:31
Keni
paulo
I didn't get a choice in the end. Having declined the opportunity to upgrade on several occasions because I was pretty much happy with w8 as it was, my laptop one day told me it was going to do the upgrade to 8.1, gave me 5 minutes save what I was working on and then just did it and there was no way (that I knew of) to stop it. To say I was unhappy about that is something of an understatement.
 
It took about an hour with various restarts and to be fair has worked perfectly fine since, but then again, it did before as far as I was concerned. W10 looks like something of a backward step to me, so I can't see me doing that unless I have to for some reason and preferably not because MS have taken it upon themselves to decide that I am having it whether I want it or not.
 
Still can't believe they really did that.


Hi Paulo...

I'm sorry you got forced into it but glad it didn't cause you any issues. I'm guessing sometime in some way you gave your permission.. I've seen a few friends get it without realizing it, but it was how they responded to popups that alliwed it to happen...

I'm a bit nervous about 10 as they seem to be moving into a new scheme of some kind according to posts I've read... I'm not sure how I will feel about it.

I'm thinking I will try to do the 8.1 update if I'm awake at the right hour <sigh> and hope it can manage it on battery power...

I'm tired of booting to the touchscreen page as I don't have a touchscreen and currently hope vocal commands arrive before I'm pushed into buying old tech... Touchscreens are a pita though very intuitive... Finger pointing has never been my thing! ;-)

Keni
2015/05/24 21:20:45
TerraSin
I use the mouse scrollwheel for touchscreen stuff. Works beautifully. :)
2015/05/25 05:35:34
Doktor Avalanche
I wouldn't touch windows 10 until six to 12 months at least after release... Unless you enjoy working in a bugfest.

8.1 works now. Once you have updated 8.1 please don't forget to run windows update several times until there are no more fixes to install (check after every reboot).

Then do a defrag.

As a preliminary thing you might want to run chkdsk /f first to check for any hard drive issues.

Don't forget to backup first!

Cheers.
2015/05/25 05:43:07
paulo
Keni
paulo
I didn't get a choice in the end. Having declined the opportunity to upgrade on several occasions because I was pretty much happy with w8 as it was, my laptop one day told me it was going to do the upgrade to 8.1, gave me 5 minutes save what I was working on and then just did it and there was no way (that I knew of) to stop it. To say I was unhappy about that is something of an understatement.
 
It took about an hour with various restarts and to be fair has worked perfectly fine since, but then again, it did before as far as I was concerned. W10 looks like something of a backward step to me, so I can't see me doing that unless I have to for some reason and preferably not because MS have taken it upon themselves to decide that I am having it whether I want it or not.
 
Still can't believe they really did that.


Hi Paulo...

I'm sorry you got forced into it but glad it didn't cause you any issues. I'm guessing sometime in some way you gave your permission.. I've seen a few friends get it without realizing it, but it was how they responded to popups that alliwed it to happen...

I'm a bit nervous about 10 as they seem to be moving into a new scheme of some kind according to posts I've read... I'm not sure how I will feel about it.

I'm thinking I will try to do the 8.1 update if I'm awake at the right hour <sigh> and hope it can manage it on battery power...

I'm tired of booting to the touchscreen page as I don't have a touchscreen and currently hope vocal commands arrive before I'm pushed into buying old tech... Touchscreens are a pita though very intuitive... Finger pointing has never been my thing! ;-)

Keni



Well, I guess I gave it my permission in the sense that I didn't tell it not to do it, but that was only because that option wasn't available. Earlier in the day I had a message on screen that said words to the effect of .....would you like to upgrade to windows 8.1?  "now" or  "remind me later"....... I selected remind me later as the only alternative was "now" - it was a banner message across the screen and I could not do anything else without answering it. Later that day I got the same kind of banner message saying words to the effect of " your computer will be updating in 5 minutes, please save any files you are working on. The update will require your computer to restart several times, it is important that you do not switch off your computer during this time"
 
That was one of the many things that annoyed me about it - they weren't to know that I wasn't out and about somewhere with a low battery time remaining and no way of plugging in - so presumably as it was "important" not to switch off, something not good would have happened had it done so, even though this wouldn't have been through choice.
 
Once it was up and running again a quick www search revealed that I was not the only one to whom this happened and unsurprisingly there was a lot of anger.
 
Anyway, it's all good now. I don't have a touchscreen either, but don't have any problems using win 8. If you are struggling with win8 a bit, this video is quite helpful...
 

 
 
The only things that bugged me in w8 was the stupid charm bar popping up all the time whe I didn't want it to, which is addressed in 8.1 in that you can mostly disable it and the convoluted shutdown procedure, but a quick wwww search revealed how to make your own shutdown "tile" for the start screen, so that problem was easy enough to get round.
 
 
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