2013/09/04 13:44:38
bapu
Debates and cussings crop up from time to time about the proper naming of these three sports.
 
I get that the UK and much of Europe do not get why we Umerikhans call it "football". OK, I'l accept that on face value. No debate there.
 
But, I've watched a few Soccer and Rugby games in my days on earth and I can say with certainty that the rules of soccer does not seem to involve using fists to sock another player (for the good of the game that is). Further I see no rugs involved in Rugby.
 
WTF?
2013/09/04 14:22:09
Mesh
bapu
Debates and cussings crop up from time to time about the proper naming of these three sports.
 
I get that the UK and much of Europe do not get why we Umerikhans call it "football". OK, I'l accept that on face value. No debate there.
 
But, I've watched a few Soccer and Rugby games in my days on earth and I can say with certainty that the rules of soccer does not seem to involve using fists to sock another player (for the good of the game that is). Further I see no rugs involved in Rugby.
 
WTF?


Where did you see soccer players "regulary" getting into fist fights (for the good of the game)? I've seen fist fights in American Football on occasions (playoffs or in a long time heated rivalry), but never on regular basis either......they'd be ejected from the game and depending on the severity, not be eligible for some time + be fined. 
  

Rugby got its name in Saxon times. It was first mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 as a small farming settlement then called Rocheberie. One theory is that the name came from the Anglo-Saxon Hrōceburh = "Rook fort", where Rook may be the birds or may be a man's name. There is another theory that it is derived from an old Celtic name Droche-brig meaning "wild hilltop". Viking influence in the area changed the ending to the Old Norse -bý; in 1200 it was spelt Rokebi. The name later evolved into "Rokeby", and by the 18th century had become "Rugby".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rugby,_Warwickshire
 
 
Now if this was a debate between Cricket and Rugby, it could be easily differentiated:
 
Cricket is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans and Rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.
2013/09/04 14:58:20
Beagle
pfft.
 
ask yousef one simple question:  is there becan involved?
 
NO?
 
who cares????
2013/09/04 15:25:18
UbiquitousBubba
Having virtually no actual knowledge of the subject matter, I feel fully qualified to answer your questions.
 
Soccer - This sport was created in 879 BC in what would someday be known as "France" by local goatherders.  The game began when Jean Claude kicked a spare goat head into Pierre's tent.  Hostilities promptly broke out on all sides, even among those who had not been paying attention.  Eager to recreate the experience, teams were formed, goats were beheaded, and the words, "Manchester United" were carved into the side of a nearby hill.  This last bit resulted in a minor skirmish that consisted primarily of taunts, insults, and the occasional concussion.
 
Due to the fact that these early teams were made up of poor goatherders, they lacked the proper footwear.  While some teams referred their to their stockings as hosiery, they were quickly battered by men who declared they wore socks.  As a result, the sport became known as soccer and the Germans embraced lederhosen.
 
Rugby - This ancient sport dates back to 3762 BC in what would later become known as southern Wales.  Thag killed a bear.  Actually, he found it.  It died when if fell off a cliff and landed on its head.  Anyway, Thag hit it a few times just to make sure.  Being a rather perceptive individual, Thag realized that there were some discernable differences between himself and the bear.  It took him a few days to work it out.  Eventually, he had a thought.  The bear had fur it was no longer using and Thag, sadly, did not.  Thag felt his bare scalp and rubbed the bear's lush fur.  He did it again.  Ok, he did it for about a week.  At last, he tore off a small section of the bear's furry skin and placed it on his head. 
 
Seeking to keep his new hairpiece in place, Thag had his friend, Ug hit it with a club.  When Thag awoke, Ug had stolen his hair.  The two battled over the tattered rug at great length until Thag finally succeed in nailing the swatch of fur to his own head.
 
Thus, the game of Rugby was born.  In time, the game lost some of its earlier sophistication.
 
HTH.
2013/09/04 15:34:43
SteveStrummerUK
Mesh
Rugby got its name in Saxon times. It was first mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 as a small farming settlement then called Rocheberie. One theory is that the name came from the Anglo-Saxon Hrōceburh = "Rook fort", where Rook may be the birds or may be a man's name. There is another theory that it is derived from an old Celtic name Droche-brig meaning "wild hilltop". Viking influence in the area changed the ending to the Old Norse -bý; in 1200 it was spelt Rokebi. The name later evolved into "Rokeby", and by the 18th century had become "Rugby".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rugby,_Warwickshire


The game of Rugby is actually so called because its rules were first codified at Rugby School in the mid nineteenth century.
 
Mesh
 
Now if this was a debate between Cricket and Rugby, it could be easily differentiated:
 
Cricket is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans and Rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.

 
Oops
 
That should read:
 
Football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by hooligans. Rugby is a game played by hooligans and watched by gentlemen.
 
If anything, cricket is a game played by gentlemen and watched by gentlemen.
 
Please pay attention Mesh, there will be a test on Friday
 
If there is any doubt:
  • Football = Association Football = (at a push) Soccer
  • Rugby = Rugby (Union or League) Football
  • American Football = Rugby for armour-plated woosies
  • Baseball = Rounders
  • Basketball = Netball
  • Ice Hockey = Field Hockey for armour-plated woosies
  • Hamburger = Beefburger = (at a push) Horseburger
  • Chips is Chips
 
 
2013/09/04 15:39:18
Mesh
UbiquitousBubba
Having virtually no actual knowledge of the subject matter, I feel fully qualified to answer your questions.
 
Soccer - This sport was created in 879 BC in what would someday be known as "France" by local goatherders.  The game began when Jean Claude kicked a spare goat head into Pierre's tent.  Hostilities promptly broke out on all sides, even among those who had not been paying attention.  Eager to recreate the experience, teams were formed, goats were beheaded, and the words, "Manchester United" were carved into the side of a nearby hill.  This last bit resulted in a minor skirmish that consisted primarily of taunts, insults, and the occasional concussion.
 
Due to the fact that these early teams were made up of poor goatherders, they lacked the proper footwear.  While some teams referred their to their stockings as hosiery, they were quickly battered by men who declared they wore socks.  As a result, the sport became known as soccer and the Germans embraced lederhosen.
 
Rugby - This ancient sport dates back to 3762 BC in what would later become known as southern Wales.  Thag killed a bear.  Actually, he found it.  It died when if fell off a cliff and landed on its head.  Anyway, Thag hit it a few times just to make sure.  Being a rather perceptive individual, Thag realized that there were some discernable differences between himself and the bear.  It took him a few days to work it out.  Eventually, he had a thought.  The bear had fur it was no longer using and Thag, sadly, did not.  Thag felt his bare scalp and rubbed the bear's lush fur.  He did it again.  Ok, he did it for about a week.  At last, he tore off a small section of the bear's furry skin and placed it on his head. 
 
Seeking to keep his new hairpiece in place, Thag had his friend, Ug hit it with a club.  When Thag awoke, Ug had stolen his hair.  The two battled over the tattered rug at great length until Thag finally succeed in nailing the swatch of fur to his own head.
 
Thus, the game of Rugby was born.  In time, the game lost some of its earlier sophistication.
 
HTH.





 
Due to this latest hysterical update, Bapu please disregard post #2.
 
Let the games begin!!! or is it Let's get ready to Ruuuuummmmmmmbllllle!!!!!
2013/09/04 15:45:59
Mesh
SteveStrummerUK
Mesh
Rugby got its name in Saxon times. It was first mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086 as a small farming settlement then called Rocheberie. One theory is that the name came from the Anglo-Saxon Hrōceburh = "Rook fort", where Rook may be the birds or may be a man's name. There is another theory that it is derived from an old Celtic name Droche-brig meaning "wild hilltop". Viking influence in the area changed the ending to the Old Norse -bý; in 1200 it was spelt Rokebi. The name later evolved into "Rokeby", and by the 18th century had become "Rugby".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rugby,_Warwickshire


The game of Rugby is actually so called because its rules were first codified at Rugby School in the mid nineteenth century.
 
Mesh
 
Now if this was a debate between Cricket and Rugby, it could be easily differentiated:
 
Cricket is a gentlemen's game played by hooligans and Rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen.

 
Oops
 
That should read:
 
Football is a game played by gentlemen and watched by hooligans. Rugby is a game played by hooligans and watched by gentlemen.
 
If anything, cricket is a game played by gentlemen and watched by gentlemen.
 
Please pay attention Mesh, there will be a test on Friday
 
If there is any doubt:
  • Football = Association Football = (at a push) Soccer
  • Rugby = Rugby (Union or League) Football
  • American Football = Rugby for armour-plated woosies
  • Baseball = Rounders
  • Basketball = Netball
  • Ice Hockey = Field Hockey for armour-plated woosies
  • Hamburger = Beefburger = (at a push) Horseburger
  • Chips is Chips
 
 


I stand corrected.
Thanks Steve...(I was just trying to hold off Bapu until help arrived.......he had his fists up and threatening to be a Football fan).
2013/09/04 15:51:55
daryl1968

2013/09/04 15:55:49
Jeff Evans
The ultimate football game is Australian (Aussie) rules. Soccer is the closest thing to it in terms of speed and pace. The rest, well we wont even go there
2013/09/04 16:15:58
bapu
But again I ask.... where is the socking in soccer rules? Seems like all that happens is a ball is kicked around (for sport).
 
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