Oddmeister


Fair point Aries.

But you can ensure that your anti virus software is enabled when you go online to install the custom shop and then disable it after you have installed. 

IK multimedia are long time players in the music software and plugin market and are well aware how the majority of music producers / customers use their DAW's and are probably not considered a risk. 

However if you can't physically or wirelessly get an internet connection to your DAW then this provides another challenge.

But personally I think that IK Multimedia have provided a good, transparent online service (which most commercial) software developers require for purchasing registering and updating  their products.

I'm not trying to provoke an argument, just stating that Ik's process is no different or more difficult/risky than any other major developer who requires online registration. (Native instruments, propellerhead, fxpansion to name but a few) for their products.

Personally I prefer the custom shop, as it doesn't generate new individual registration codes for all of your gear via the IK authorisation manager. That is a PITA every time a fresh install is required :-( 

You cannot go online on a computer not connected to the internet!. So at the moment Custom Shop does not work for non-internet computers and you can only install CS Grand using authorize manager and that is all. 

I don't see a problem here.

I only ever connect my DAW to the internet when I want to download/install/authorise relevant software.

When I'm done I simply pull the wireless dongle out.

And no, you don't need a 24/7 internet enabled connection in order to use the plugins - THAT would be lunacy but it's simply not the case.

I think it's a great system for updating plugs - those of you poo-pooing it are missing out big time.

And no, I don't work for IK and no, Custom Shop does not intrude in any way on my system

And not just that you need to be online on the Internet all the time during working with the DAW?

Who is that on a PC setup or actually on MAC setup too during Mixing and working? Even serious MAC user kill the internet during sessions.
I have my DAW connected to the internet for updates and service but not during working & sessions. Man, you need to ask the users or PRO-users how workflow are.

No Freddie - this is simply not the case.

It doesn't matter how many times some one tries to convince me.

It is simple.

I would have purchased the 64 bit updates to CSR.

I want 4 dll files.

That is all I want.

The other IK stuff I have licenses too? Well I never use that stuff because I don't like how it sounds.

IK will not sell me 4 updated dlls?  

They have instantiated an arbitrary policy?

No worries. I have lots of good options.






I find any further efforts to convince me to use something I have already said I have no interest to seem rude.

I have an arbitrary policy too: I don't do business with vendors when they cross that line.  :-) 

You may notice that I am not bickering about what Custom Shop does or doesn't do... I have simply stated that I will not install it just to get access to CSR 64bit.

It's simple, I have lots of good options.




best regards,
mike

Bristol_Jonesey


I don't see a problem here.

I only ever connect my DAW to the internet when I want to download/install/authorise relevant software.

When I'm done I simply pull the wireless dongle out.

And no, you don't need a 24/7 internet enabled connection in order to use the plugins - THAT would be lunacy but it's simply not the case.

I think it's a great system for updating plugs - those of you poo-pooing it are missing out big time.

And no, I don't work for IK and no, Custom Shop does not intrude in any way on my system

And not just that you need to be online on the Internet all the time during working with the DAW?

Who is that on a PC setup or actually on MAC setup too during Mixing and working? Even serious MAC user kill the internet during sessions.
I have my DAW connected to the internet for updates and service but not during working & sessions. Man, you need to ask the users or PRO-users how workflow are.

No Freddie - this is simply not the case.

aha my fault then! Obi said something you need to be online continual to be able to demo them? 
 
But still you need to use Custom shop like a plugin in the DAW. You then load and use the separate purchased plugins thru Custom Shop. The plugins doesn't come with own VST's dll. GUI anymore. In my opinion that's really stupid!
 
Anyway have a great weekend!
Best Regards
Freddie 

They DO come with their own GUI's and .dlls guys. The Custom Shop is just the tool that downloads and installs them. After they are installed you can close the Custom Shop to get to the fun music making stuff.

Yes, I know that the updates come with the separate dlls.

IK has decided that I can not purchase them unless I accept its terms.

I get it.

:-)

I'm just not getting the updates.


best regards,
mike

IK Obi


I haven't hear many people complain about the Custom Shop til this week.
 

Selective hearing?
 

 
Don't forget folks if like some here you have removed your IK software hoping you've seen the last of you'll have to check these locations to clear out the garbage that's been left on your system.  These all sound like they might be important system files but they are all IK installer files which can safely be deleted.  The only caveat is that if you still have any IK software still installed they will get re-created for you, kinda like malware, in fact exactly like malware.
 
Windows\msocreg32.dat
Windows\System32\msvcsv60.dll
Windows\System32\w3data.vss
ProgramData\autobk.inc
AppData\Roaming\msregsvv.dll
AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\isindex.dat

HTH

I guess some peoples bosses check the forums to see if their employee toes the company line..

I guess if I worked for Bapu  I would diss all other screen printing and say his was the best (which it is anyway) on all the print forums and say his ink was the wave of the futire, and all the people with iron on transfers were so yesterday...

By the way Bapu is coming out with an IPRINT app...

IK Obi


They DO come with their own GUI's and .dlls guys. The Custom Shop is just the tool that downloads and installs them. After they are installed you can close the Custom Shop to get to the fun music making stuff.

OK! That is not the impression you get from your website? You need to make the info more clear how this work that it is only a standalone software only for installations and license only.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/trcs/
 
 
It that case I don't see the big Fuzz? Its like NI Service-Center then. Carry on!
 
 
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie

Exactly, except you can do tons more with gear models being added and demoing them as they come out.