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2015/02/21 21:51:55
Kamikaze
Cool, thanks for the replies guys, it's given me a better picture on how to approach.
 
I'm loving the Mark Studio on my new Jazzbass. I can see myself setting up a sound from it just to play and record, but once a mix is in place, it provides so much flexibility on changing the sound of mix, so I should just concentrate on getting the lines down at first.  
2015/02/22 17:37:26
sharke
Kamikaze
Cool, thanks for the replies guys, it's given me a better picture on how to approach.
 
I'm loving the Mark Studio on my new Jazzbass. I can see myself setting up a sound from it just to play and record, but once a mix is in place, it provides so much flexibility on changing the sound of mix, so I should just concentrate on getting the lines down at first.  




Mark Studio is really good. The great thing about it is that it has a mix slider so you can mix the dry & amped sounds to taste without necessarily having to set up a bus. 
2015/02/24 00:05:01
ward s
bluzdog
batsbrew
REMEMBER,
 a lot of jimmy page's early zeppelin sound,
was done with a tele thru a Supro combo.
 
nothing big about that!
 

Check this out: http://www.gibson.com/en-us/lifestyle/productspotlight/gearandinstruments/10-huge-sounds-recorded-521/ 
 Rocky




Don't forget Zappa and his Pignose.
 
2015/02/24 10:47:10
sharke
ward s
bluzdog
batsbrew
REMEMBER,
 a lot of jimmy page's early zeppelin sound,
was done with a tele thru a Supro combo.
 
nothing big about that!
 

Check this out: http://www.gibson.com/en-us/lifestyle/productspotlight/gearandinstruments/10-huge-sounds-recorded-521/ 
 Rocky




Don't forget Zappa and his Pignose.
 



If the early 70's were Zappa's Pignose years then I have to get myself one of those. I always thought his guitar sound was at its peak during that time. 
2015/02/24 11:33:22
pentimentosound
If I recall it correctly, Zappa miked the Pignose with it's back on the floor, facing up.
2015/02/24 16:18:22
ward s
This is from a 1977 interview...
 
FZ: In the studio most of the stuff is played through a Pignose. I've done all kinds of things with a Pignose; I've taken it and put it in a "live" chamber and taken an (ElectroVoice) RE-20 and stuck it right in front of the Pignose, and that will get one kind of sound. It's actually the sound of an amp, but you can hear that it's in a room, and the room is resonant, so it's a realistic sound. On Zoot Allures about the only thing I used the Vox bottom and the Marshall top for was to get feedback on a song called "Filthy Habits." There's another song called "The Torture Never Stops" where it's just Pignose. Another thing I've done with the Pignose is just put it out in the middle of a dead studio, put two mikes on it, and mike it in stereo. It gets a good sound. Put one mike behind the other so there's a slight spread to it. I've also put the Piguose in an echo chamber and miked it, but not too close, because the echo chamber is real resonant. Since the amplifier isn't real loud, if you put the mike a foot away from the amp, you're going to get a sound that really approaches what you hear in a hockey rink. Anybody who's working in a studio and wants to try this, just tell the engineer to disconnect the speaker cables in the echo chamber and put a plug (phone jack) on the end of the echo send, and plug the echo send into your Pignose. Then you can sit in the control room, plug your guitar directly into the board, send it to the echo chamber on the echo send, and hear yourself coming back - and it sounds like you're in a hockey rink. You can even make it feed back by long distance. I've been using a Pignose for about the last three or four years. I think I started using it the most on Apostrophe, but there is some on Over-Nite Sensation, too.
 
here's the link to the interview...
http://home.online.no/~corneliu/gp77interview.htm
 
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2015/02/24 18:11:38
batsbrew
i had a pignose, 
back in the late 80's..
 
it's what got me thru hurricane hugo!!!
 
2015/02/24 20:17:23
tlw
I've done gigs using a pignose mic'd into the PA or even a spare channel input on the bassist's amp before now - I took to carrying one years ago as an "emergency amp" in case my main amp decided to die at the wrong time. It's also a surprisingly good harmonica amplifier and I know several people who use them for that.

By the way Beepster, if you're looking for a domestic-premises friendly amp 10 watts is about 10 times the power you'll need. Using the same cabinet, a 5 watt amp cranked flat out is about half the volume (in dB) of 50 watts. I've an Epiphone Valve Junior (with Phillips valves and a Jensen speaker) and in the house I rarely open it up more than about a third, at which point it's already pushing 85dBA at a meter.
2015/02/24 23:58:27
sharke
I wonder if he used the Pignose for the Montana solo on Overnite Sensation. That is one of my all time favorite guitar solos, along with the one he plays on Inca Roads. 
2015/02/25 16:02:20
ward s
sharke
I wonder if he used the Pignose for the Montana solo on Overnite Sensation. That is one of my all time favorite guitar solos, along with the one he plays on Inca Roads. 




funny, I was just having that thought about fifty fifty. I bet a dollar he did.
 
Yeah, Inca Roads. I think my first choice is willy the pimp, though. 
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