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2013/08/20 04:28:08
Rain
Back in the second season, Chef ended up being sued by the record company who'd stole one of his songs. Well, guess what....
 
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/08/19/213471083/robin-thickes-song-sounds-like-marvin-gaye-so-thicke-is-suing-gayes-family
 
 
2013/08/20 04:41:13
Rain
Someone tell the Gaye family to use the Chewbacca Defense...
2013/08/20 06:05:56
craigb
That's just Gaye.
2013/08/20 06:12:56
ProjectM
Man that's messed up...
2013/08/20 07:02:38
The Maillard Reaction
I just listened to the song of the summer.
 
I'm thinking people are still going to be buying and enjoying Marvin Gaye albums for a long, long time.
 
It's shame that the estate made suggestions about creating a conflict. It's a shame the new guys didn't offer a sampling fee for the opening motif.
 
Maybe the publicity will sell a few more records for everyone.
 
I'm listening to the original Detroit mixes of What's Going On as a special treat.
 
It's shameful that young listeners are offered soul less music for consumption when there is so much soulful music already in the can.
 
Save the children. Play some Marvin Gaye for them today.
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
 
 
2013/08/20 09:12:09
Moshkiae
Hi,
 
I think that we're going to see more and more of this, as a way for the "music business" to intimidate new musicians and steal the gold that they feel they should be getting.
 
I'm all for everyone's cup of java and sugar and all that ... but somewhere along the way, there is some serious lack of talent, that is simply re-hasing the same thing over and over again, and the things that you liked, and appreciated, WILL filter in many of the things you do, and eventually you will lose because of it.
 
This is why it is so important to get tuned in, and stop doing what everyone else is doing ... you have to look inside and develop/touch your inner music, and no one ... NO ONE ... will ever confuse you with anyone else.
 
If you need a lesson, you really need to go spend some time listening to Peter Hammill's 30 solo albums, or Roy Harper's 25 solo albums!
 
You can not say, that there is no creativity and that nothing new can be done! But you continue to do what has been done before ... I wanna do metal ... I wanna do bah bah ... I wanna do blues ... and in the end, all you are saying is ... I don't have the ability or talent to say what I want to say and do!
 
And you know what? ... you do! But you don't believe in it!
2013/08/20 09:25:10
Moshkiae
mike_mccue
...
It's shameful that young listeners are offered soul less music for consumption when there is so much soulful music already in the can.
 
Save the children. Play some Marvin Gaye for them today.
 
... 
 


If you notice my tagline, and most of my comments, my biggest concern is ... "knowing" ... the "truth".
 
And this is what you have to teach your children --- and well -- (sorry, couldn't help it!), the difference between the right and the wrong ... not that it is right or wrong, but one is original and the other is the copy.
 
There are times when you gonna hit the proverbial brick wall ... if you play Dylan, and then Jimi, you gonna love this version, but you can not say that Jimi's version has the sardonic feel that the original does, and that goes with Dylan, and the words, more than anything else.
 
Truth, has a special color and feel ... that any copy, or "sample" does not have, and does not show ... and if the children are following the hollow and shallow "gods" ... I would venture to say that the parents are the issue more than anything else ... but then, you have to wonder ... didn't we have the same issue that created Woodstock and the like? ... YEP ... we did ... but one thing that you can do as a parent, is stand aside ... and know the truth ... and make sure that you explain to the kids, what is the truth and what is the copy ... even though one is trying to be hip and just sell ... and take advantage of the kid's dollars.
 
This is your chance to shine ... get the kids to "know" the difference!
 
This was an issue for me, during the days of Woodstock, when I knew that some of the dope and sex thing was a fantasy, that most wanted to get some of, instead of it being a meaningful experience for you, I or anyone else ... and that is a part of the whole generation that became very screwed up and lost in the dope of the days, and the plastic signs later to remember the good trip they had one time! It might be too many words, but you have to do your best to help the kids see ... "the truth" ... behind it, so you can help them see their own truth.
 
Remind them of one thing, though ... there is only one truth ... the rest is all around and outside ... and you have to "know" which one is true, and learn how to define it ... does your kid know that? If he/she does, don't worry ... be happy, so to speak!
2013/08/20 09:29:24
The Maillard Reaction
I feel lucky.
 
I live in a small town that embraces the idea of passing along the concept of culture to it's youth.
 
I have become very accustomed to learning from the younger generation of artists because, on the whole, we enjoy a culture that encourages our youth to leave us behind as they blossom and evolve.
 
best regards,
mike
 
 
2013/08/20 09:42:44
Moshkiae
Hi,
 
In reading the article, again, there is a side of it, that is right ... and a side of it, that is wrong.
 
It is TRUE that a "sound" can not be copyrighted. Only the note sequence on a staff and the poem that goes with it.
 
And this is an issue, for a lot of music history ... and specially, for example, something called "progressive music" ... because it is "stuck" on one sound and preference, and has lost its ability to continue on to something else, because folks are stuck in the 3 or 4 bands that did it, and no one else can do anything similar or slightly different that is just as experimental as anything else ... so ELP is "progressive" and Amon Duul 2 is not, or Pink Floyd is progressive and Guru Guru is not!
 
In the end, what folks are getting stuck on, is the memory of the past! ... and afraid of the future and it's new presentation ... and RT has a right to stand up to that.
 
Will the suit make it? ... I think not. It might get mixed reviews in England, but it will get thrown out in America, and the crap will continue. In the end, Robin is not totally wrong, and it speaks volumes for an industry that thinks that the only blues/jazz standard there is is Blue Note, and you have to pay for it, and if someone else comes around, he's copying someone else, and can not be himself/herself at all!
 
It's the same instrument, and it often sounds the same ... but does it really play the same?
 
I, personally, find RT ... the sound of money, when compared to Marvin's version which, to me, is the sound of music ... and you just have to explain that to your kids ... so they learn to know the difference. In the end, RT is going to hurt himself and be ignored in the music business ... look ... you're hurting the very hand that feeds you ... but in this case the folks that own Marvin's stuff also need a slap ... for being greeedy and having screwed up the whole thing! Should have just taken the rights for the use of it ... and close the book ... nooooo ... . they started screaming bloody murder!
 
What's goin on? ... fits so well now!
2013/08/20 10:43:20
bitflipper
My first reaction was WhoTF is Robin Thicke, and what a greedy ashole he must be!
 
Come to find out he's really not the villain in this story. Rather, it's Marvin Gaye's descendants who feel they have a right to a perpetual income from their forebear's labors and have been demanding payment. The purpose of RT's suit is to get a judge to declare that the two songs are not the same, thereby preempting any potential legal action by the Gaye family.
 
I downloaded the show and listened to snippits of the songs in question. There's no doubt that RT owes a debt of gratitude to Marvin Gaye - along with Smokey Robinson, Jackie Wilson, Berry Gordy, James Jamerson and the rest of the Funk Brothers. Don't we all?
 
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