2013/04/11 19:18:35
cclarry
This should be in Hardware..but am posting here because it's FOR DAW's....
 
Rupert Neve Designs has knocked it out of the park with the new RND 5060.  Rupert Neve Designs surprises everyone with the release of the 5060 Centerpiece. The 5060 delivers the tonality and center section features of Rupert’s flagship 5088 console at your fingertips, allowing you to combine outboard together with serious custom transformers, flexible monitoring, DAW transport controls, and the raw power of a Rupert Neve-designed 24×2 mix-buss. The 5060 is the ideal core of the quality-conscious modern studio. The 5060 can also provide a huge range of tonal flavors with its custom transformers, and a class-A mix buss with variable Silk. All this and also integrating stem outputs from the DAW with the rest of the control room, sums the final mix, and provides 2-track outputs, source selection, and multiple speaker feeds from the monitor section. This is truly the heart of your workstation. *Shipping in May...




http://www.sonicscoop.com/2013/04/10/rupert-neve-designs-debuts-5060-centerpiece-24x2-desktop-mixer/
2013/04/12 00:50:48
AT
Hardly a daw controller since it only has the transport.  But it is a nice bit of kit, as long as you need everything it does.  24 summing mixer w/ 4 stereo channels on their own faders, inserts, master fader, speaker selection, daw transport and fricking big red knob.  Even then it is pricey, but should be worth it if it has enough transformers.  And variable silk is a real killer feature - I've got it on my Portico II Channel and on the right sources can do all kinds of texture.  On a mix it should be all kinds of useful.  But if you already have one of those things the cost/benefit really gets wacky unless you are using it for pro purposes or have lots of money to invest.  If it had moving faders, even 4 stereo, you could insert all kinds of analog comps/EQs pre vol change which would be really nice...

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2013/04/12 04:23:16
Jeff Evans
The most important thing on it are the VU meters! Now let's think, why are they there?
2013/04/12 07:28:36
The Maillard Reaction


They are there because RMS meters don't cut it when you are trying to determine the relative "loudness" of a sonic event.

;-)
2013/04/12 09:52:53
Jeff Evans
Mike you are wrong on this. You are wrongly creating the impression that loudness metering is just so accurate and rms metering is not and the two and worlds apart. Sorry but not true. If you watch this video here:

http://productionadvice.co.uk/lufs-dbfs-rms/

Yes the loudness metering shows more information but overall when it comes right down to it the VU meter is showing a value that is either very accurate compared to the loudness meter or out by maybe 1 dB or close to it. 

The VU is the closest thing to the loudness measurement by far. If I were to only use a VU meter and then compared results using the loudness meter the two would simply be close. Very close. So much so that I have not rushed out and spent money on the LUFS meter. I am sure it is good and more accurately it simply gives you more information.

2013/04/12 10:06:27
The Maillard Reaction


Hi Jeff,

RMS meters are simply a subset of a loudness meter.

Loudness meters measure for RMS voltage and then that RMS is correlated to perceived loudness with a further transfer function that can be applied in either the analog or digital domain.

VU meters are a loudness meter using state of the art 1940s (invented in 1939) technology.

It is a fact.

You can go look it up just about any where, but I'd recommend a quick phone call to Mike Durroughs if you want to clear it up real fast.


best regards,
mike
2013/04/12 18:25:12
Jeff Evans
The VU meter is still by far the closest thing to the loudness meter.
2013/04/12 21:54:25
The Maillard Reaction


Hi Jeff,

A VU meter is a loudness meter.







best regards,
mike
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