Just bought the Producer version. It's way better than the demo version. I didn't realize a lot of basic things are disabled in the free version. I'm a 2 car car family now and very pleased so far.

I was tempted to buy it.. but yet again none US customers get a "not so good" deal vs their European rivals.. even when they are on discounted status.


I find I have to look into such offers I get, and yep they emailed me the other day.. e.g. is a crossgrade cheaper vs their LE version , that I bought ages ago.

I've just recently SOLD my copy.


Fog, you missed a deal, bro...

I should have bought it on St Patty's day when it was on sale again, but I was spending money on the new bicycle and the accessories so I felt like I shouldn't go to crazy. I still enjoy using SONAR 8.5.3 very much, but it is frustrating knowing that Uno does some stuff better than X2. I don't want to use a bunch of DAWs, but I can see it is going to have to happen.

I'm about to buy a new DAW, and I plan to buy a license for several other DAWs and make my place more hospitable to a wider variety of guests.

The latest Cubase has begun to fascinate me. The tempo mapping and harmony features are something I expected in SONAR five versions ago.

I figure I'll stop sending Roland money and start taking Brandon's and Craig's advice and stock up on other DAWs now that I realize that there are better tools for some jobs.


best regards,
mike

The latest Cubase has begun to fascinate me. The tempo mapping and harmony features are something I expected in SONAR five versions ago.

I have Cubase 7.03 and have to say...while the workflow is more cumbersome then X2, the feature set beats the 
crap out of X2.  ChordTrack, the Chord Assistant, Variaudio,  VST Expression, the ability to "Search" within the Plugin list, VST 3.x support, far better and more intuitive PRV and MIDI editing, built in Loudness Meter, VST Connect for collaboration, far better Staff View and Scoring...it's a pretty extensive list...

If it had the workflow and appearance of X2......it would be the King of the DAW hill....

Uno also has a cumbersome workflow...but it's not that difficult to get used to...and a great feature set...


One of these days these guys will figure out that the one that gets all these features into a "single" stable package wins...


Cubase is getting closer....I have to say that...

I still love X2....it just seems to "feel" better...if, as I stated, it would get it's feature set and technology up to date...
there'd be no stopping it...

I'd like to see a "Console" feature...


Where, you select a Console from a menu, and the entire Mixer changes to look and sound like that Console...SSL4000 E, G, API 550A, B, 560, Neve, Harrison....oh yeah...then the whole world would change...LOL  Hey, one can dream can't they?

I have to say that Sonar still feels comfortable like that old pair of shoes. Studio Uno has a lot of nifty new features to explore and since I'm just a hobbyist new features to explore are fun. They really have made it easy to use virtual instruments.

Cakewalk needs to start talking with the user base because this wall of silence and the house cleaning of old faces just leaves me cold. I want to be excited about the product and interaction with the sales and development people are a big part of that.

I suppose that as a professional it doesn't matter so much because the clients are bringing the excitement.

ampfixer


Cakewalk needs to start talking with the user base because this wall of silence and the house cleaning of old faces just leaves me cold. I want to be excited about the product and interaction with the sales and development people are a big part of that.

I agree John...it's like they've been told by Roland...PAY NO ATTENTION TO THOSE MEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN...being us
in the forum...


I mean, really, they were in here constantly before this, and now it's complete silence...

That certainly doesn't give one a "warm and fuzzy" feeling ...

Maybe they are heavy in the "re-codeing" of X2 to get VST 3.x implemented and some of the buggy features repaired?  
One can dream can't they? 

It certainly is nice to at least get "hints" as to what's in the pipeline to keep one motivated and interested..

Just my thoughts...

I know I may receive a thrashing by the X2 effecianados but after trying Sonar X1LE 1 decided to stay with 8.5.3. At the same time they had the special on Artist version of StudioJuan so I tried it out and even though it was limited I was off and running right off the bat, that's just me of course.

I have upgraded that to the full version(Professional) 1 and 2 and probably will when 3 comes out god willing.

Sonar 8.5.3 still has it's place on my system because all in all, this old dog does have a hard time learning new tricks and having both covers all my musical angles.

Not from me...I use them all...

The merits of Juan are undeniable...
The merits of Cubase are undeniable...
The merits of X2 are undenialbe...
The merits of PT are undeniable...
The merits of Logic, DP8, etc...ad naseum are undeniable...

The ONE thing that alludes these companies is that they can't seem to 
GET IT IN ONE PACKAGE...as they play the "I hate XXX so I'm not going
to implement that" game..."

Kind of a dumb game...

Just think if X2 could run RTAS or AAX plugins...it would be the FIRST non Pro Tools DAW
to do that..it would open a whole new world of plugins to users....etc...

Just think if X2 had been FIRST to implement VST3...instead of being one of the LAST holdouts....

Why don't they? you ask...well they'd have to get Licensing from AVID..and they won't do that...
Steinberg, on the other hand, leaves VST open to others...and they STILL get berated for 
being the "developer" of the format....and we hate Steinberg for it...blah blah blah...

It's a "we want our own proprietary format" war....that's why Cake developed the PC...
but, where they missed the boat is not "flooding" the market with PC Modules....
THAT would have opened the doors to others maybe "adopting or adapting"...

NOPE...instead...they sat on the laurels and played the "waiting" game....
NOW they are porting their PC modules to VST...in the hopes of gaining a few 
more customers....which they didin't gain by "waiting"...

It's been a year since the last PC Module was released...and you can't include
Breverb, TH-2, or the CA-2A...those aren't NEW, they are "ports"...

And the only OTHER PC 3rd party player?  Softube...and ONLY the Mix Bundle...

They lost interest real fast...

I maintain an "open" mind....and look at ALL the possibilities...

Just my thoughts...

cclarry


Not from me...I use them all...

The merits of Juan are undeniable...
The merits of Cubase are undeniable...
The merits of X2 are undenialbe...
The merits of PT are undeniable...
The merits of Logic, DP8, etc...ad naseum are undeniable...

The ONE thing that alludes these companies is that they can't seem to 
GET IT IN ONE PACKAGE...as they play the "I hate XXX so I'm not going
to implement that" game..."

Kind of a dumb game...

Just think if X2 could run RTAS or AAX plugins...it would be the FIRST non Pro Tools DAW
to do that..it would open a whole new world of plugins to users....etc...

Just think if X2 had been FIRST to implement VST3...instead of being one of the LAST holdouts....

Why don't they? you ask...well they'd have to get Licensing from AVID..and they won't do that...
Steinberg, on the other hand, leaves VST open to others...and they STILL get berated for 
being the "developer" of the format....and we hate Steinberg for it...blah blah blah...

It's a "we want our own proprietary format" war....that's why Cake developed the PC...
but, where they missed the boat is not "flooding" the market with PC Modules....
THAT would have opened the doors to others maybe "adopting or adapting"...

NOPE...instead...they sat on the laurels and played the "waiting" game....
NOW they are porting their PC modules to VST...in the hopes of gaining a few 
more customers....which they didin't gain by "waiting"...

It's been a year since the last PC Module was released...and you can't include
Breverb, TH-2, or the CA-2A...those aren't NEW, they are "ports"...

And the only OTHER PC 3rd party player?  Softube...and ONLY the Mix Bundle...

They lost interest real fast...

I maintain an "open" mind....and look at ALL the possibilities...

Just my thoughts...

word.
 
that's a great post man.