2013/08/04 04:57:22
craigb
Rimshot
Because the world turns around the individual.


Won't that make them dizzy?
2013/08/04 12:03:49
Moshkiae
mike_mccue
 
I'm thinking maybe I should start hanging out at Pensado's Place till I figure out what I'm doing.
 
:-)


The tough part of all this Mike, is that no one can teach you how to do this ... this is about you and your fiber, your metal, your string, and your heart!
 
THAT, needs a bit of definition on its own ... and I found out that for me, the best LEARNING was when I let it go, and completed that "vision", regardless of how it comes out, and then I can evaluate it.
 
We're so damn stuck up that every reason and belief is always outside of ourselves ... if you can figure it out on your own ... the best engineer is ALWAYS going to stand back, and let it flow ... there is nothing that you can do to improve it.
 
Time to go see that Tom Dowd DVD again ... it's about the "moment" and has nothing to do with anything else, and externals, will only confuse you more ... and more!
 
The way I see it, it is a process issue that could be easily cured with a couple of exercises, similar to acting exercises ... you doubt yourself too much to know what your "acting" with an instrument is all about ... the moment you do, no one will make you better than you already are!  Willit be enough to "make it" ... who knows? Hopefully so ... but in so many ways, inner changes as you suggest on any piece, means that the "flow" that was there originally, is gone already ... though it was a flow that you did not recognize, and you thought ... was not right, on account of your conditioning and "knowledge" of all you know about music!
 
This is exactly what I go through in writing, and the reason why I don't touch it until that "piece" or scene, or chapter, is done. After that, I find that only punctuation and a little spelling is the issue ... not the "music".
 
2013/08/04 12:14:02
bapu
Hey Pedro, wouldn't it have better to have just let McQ's statement flow?
2013/08/04 12:18:43
The Maillard Reaction
 
I'm good Mosh. :-)
 
You know, I have really grown to enjoy your contributions here at the forum... your posts are thoughtful and thought provoking. I really enjoy how you focus on the universal aspects of art making and the creative process.
 
I've got enough experience mixing music that I have no problem making fun of myself, making fun of my human nature, and making fun of the *ambition* of trying to wear several hats.
 
I think some folks went along with the fun making and that's what I was hoping for. I enjoy a little jovial comradery in the hope that it reminds me that we can have fun while we take our work seriously.
 
all the best,
mike
 
2013/08/05 09:00:33
Moshkiae
mike_mccue ...
You know, I have really grown to enjoy your contributions here at the forum... your posts are thoughtful and thought provoking. I really enjoy how you focus on the universal aspects of art making and the creative process.
...

Thx Mike. From my days of directing and working with actors, the "focus" is the hardest part to teach, but the easiest to do ... when you click on it, you're done ... the rest is easier and you don't second guess or doubt what you do anymore ... and on that day, you know you can do it, and not fret over it, unless it is another song.
 
Musicians are a wonderful bunch, but unlike actors, they are too self-conscious, to be able to get any better and generally, that is the spot that differentiates the ones that "make it" from the rest. On stage and film, for an actor, this is the difference between the audience hanging on your words (or playing the instrument!), or falling asleep to it, because it has no "life" of its own ... it's just notes there.
 
Usually, in MY WRITING, you can tell the moments that I wrote over it ... the singularity of that "instance" is not "alive" any more, and in fact it is quite confused! If any musician gets a sync of this, they will either stop playing music, or, on that day ...they now know what they want to do with that instrument, and it is not just playing notes ... it kinda becomes the "faust" school of sound and color (German Krautrock -- see the BBC special! It is trully excellent)  ... or if you want a more famous example ... Pink Floyd played around with sound effects so much in between their synthesizer and sound effects setup in the early days, that one day, they created a bomb called DSOTM ... and then later an even bigger bomb called TW. It's not likely these would have developed otherwise, but it gives you an idea how exposure to odd/weird things, can help you create ... the movies and the visuals, were the extension of the sounds before! Of course, nowadays Roger trashes that ... as does Dave to a degree, but it was a process that teaches you something inside ... that is irreplaceable, and is very strong in terms of helping you define your own music!
 
Sorry about the yakking ... and Bapu won't read it anyway, so I don't feel guilty I wasted his time having fun!
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