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2013/02/05 20:02:22
Danny Danzi
Nah, it's well within your scale. :) I just don't know how often you'd use something like this. You don't HAVE to use it for mid side stuff, but that's pretty much what all their plugs are based on. Like I say Ed...in my opinion, nothing else does what the BW stuff does...you just have to ask yourself if you really need what the BW stuff does.

Can I let you in on a little secret? Shhh...don't tell anyone this. But initially, when I first saw their plugs, I wanted them just because they looked so cool and so intimidating. LOL! The more I read up on them, the more intimidated I got. Then low and behold, I got a project sent to me from a grammy nominated engineer/producer friend of mine in Cali that was having some issues and these plugs were the perfect fix for the issues we were having in that project. The poor guy pretty much got dumped on due to his credentials and was asked to salvage a mix that was in pretty bad shape that he had nothing to do with. Enter me, "the garbage man" to the rescue...and well, without the BW stuff, I don't think I could have helped. So they definitely have uses...it just depends on what your particular needs are.

Now that I have a much better grasp on them having worked with them for a pretty long time, I'm using them more and more on things...but like I say, I use them about half the time these days as they remain a bit more of a "specialty plug" for me. :) Rule of thumb for me and plugs these days is...they must do something that blows my doors off that cannot be achieved with stuff I already own or I don't buy them.

The other thing I've also done is to use/learn the ones I've purchased that haven't gotten much use on a project without using any of my "go to's". You find out really quick whether or not you've bought into hype...and most times, you have and it cures you from buying this stuff so quick. At least that's what's worked for me. I'm definitely done with plugs for a while. I'm perfectly happy with what I'm using these days. The more I buy into new technology, the more I seem to screw myself over.

-Danny
2013/02/05 20:04:44
bapu
All of that makes perfect sense Danny. Thanks again.
2013/02/05 21:00:50
bapu
Danny,

I have bx_boom, bx_shredspread and bx_rockrack. The first two I have used a few times and they have done the trick. I have not give rockrack a try yet.

I got all of them in December sale at plugin alliance so I did not put out too much cash for them. But so far I like the bx stuff.
2013/02/05 21:31:03
bitflipper
Ed, Pro-Q does M/S, too in case you hadn't noticed.
2013/02/06 00:33:14
bapu
bitflipper


Ed, Pro-Q does M/S, too in case you hadn't noticed.

Actually in the back of my mind I probably knew that but then again I may not have really remembered it until I had asked what tool to best use for that situation, which I have obviously must not have thought to need up until now.
2013/02/06 04:24:35
Danny Danzi
bitflipper


Ed, Pro-Q does M/S, too in case you hadn't noticed.

Yeah see Ed, if this is the case you probably won't need the other. I don't have any of the FF stuff. I've used it in the past and well, let's just say though it was some really good stuff, I have this problem with ugly GUI's and man...they definitely can use a re-write. Kinda like Reaper until you can really dial in a theme....I couldn't use it until I created something that looked cool. I know...dumb excuse for not using something, especially since the FF stuff is really good. I just can't get past the looks and the weirdness.
 
That "boom" plug is pretty nifty. I can't believe how much I've used that. When I first saw it, I laughed until one of my clients sent me a mix that needed mastering where the kick drum seemed to lack in a few spots. I automated that puppy right in for some additional "goirth". LOL! :) Shredspread....ah....nothing you can't get out of Sonitus phase really or an S-1. That didn't impress me at all to be honest. But just about all the others did. Some cool stuff for sure. :)
 
-Danny
2013/02/06 12:09:24
bitflipper
Watch this video by Dan Worrall.

EDIT: Oops, that's not the video I had in mind. (It's a good one, though.) Here's the one that goes more into the M/S features.
2013/02/06 12:12:40
bapu
Danny Danzi


bitflipper


Ed, Pro-Q does M/S, too in case you hadn't noticed.

Yeah see Ed, if this is the case you probably won't need the other. 
-Danny

Yup that is exactly why asked before I bought (Hmmmm some Daniac taught me that a while back).


Thanks to both of you. The Bapu has been enlightened.
2013/02/06 13:02:36
Kreative
bitflipper


Watch this video by Dan Worrall.

EDIT: Oops, that's not the video I had in mind. (It's a good one, though.) Here's the one that goes more into the M/S features.
I've got to watch more of these Fab videos! 


I got a bundle of them last year, and I've only just begun to take the time to really scratch the surface of what I can do with these, lately. But Dan Worall capably takes us into the deeper depths of the fab ocean and clearly shows us how EQ can shape the sound in marvelous and meticulous ways.


2013/02/06 23:46:02
bitflipper
Pointless anecdote...I was watching The Filipino Channel one night and it occurred to me that the music behind one of the commercials they were running 20 times a day sounded very familiar, but I couldn't figure out where I might have heard it. Eventually it hit me: it was one of Dan Worrall's compositions that he'd used in his "Mastering with FabFilter Plugins" video. Cool tune, reminiscent of "Telstar".

On topic, this video also gives some examples of M/S EQ using Pro-Q. 
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