2013/01/13 18:26:08
sharke
It's not just audio software. It's all software. I have Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, Lightroom, Dreamweaver and a ton of other stuff that I got at one time or another for a specific purpose, learned just enough to complete the job I was working on, vowed to learn each program thoroughly (even bought $50 books), then in the end got distracted or didn't have time. Before you know it too much time has passed since you learned the basics then you get disheartened because you're going to have to start from scratch. 

Don't know how many times I've had Lynda.com subscriptions, fantasized about doing a zillion courses and becoming some kind of guru, then watched maybe 6 or 7 videos and once again became distracted with something else going on in my life. And then there's the programming. Over the years I've learned the basics of C, C++, Java, Python, LISP and even assembly language, only to get tired of it and move onto something else before I got to the juicy stuff. I learned enough C to write an app for my business, and then that was it. Probably wouldn't understand the source code if I went back to it now. I have a ton of programming books. "Python Network Programming" -- now why in the hell did I buy that? Can't even remember....lol. 

But yeah I have way more audio stuff than I'm ever going to use. I've learned just enough to get by in all of it, but become a master of none of it. Kontakt - well, I know how to load instruments, set up multiple outputs and that's about it. Reaktor - I have learned maybe 0.001% of what there is to know about that incredible program. And then there's all the synths and effects and instruments and ensembles that come with Reaktor (as well as thousands in the public library) - there are some incredibly fascinating and weird things in that lot and I usually end up twiddling with the controls blindly until something good happens by accident. Always vow that someday I'm going to hunt out a tutorial online somewhere. Never do. 

Part of it is getting older, having more responsibilities and less time to delve into stuff. Back when I was 20 I had all the time in the world, and more patience. I could sit with a manual quite literally all day and never get bored. As I get older I start to feel that time is more precious and so I question whether or not I really have time to spend an evening learning how to wire Reaktor synths together. 

Ultimately, life is too short and there aren't enough hours in the day!
2013/01/13 19:02:38
Kreative
I can surely understand why so many of us would buy more artistic tools, eagerly hoping that those tools will ultimately either make us more productive or more creative by somehow exponentially increasing the overall scope of our musical capabilities. 

And, in many ways many of these tools can and often will help us- if we choose them carefully and wisely. 
On the other hand, however, with the increasing capabilities come an ever increasing number of learning curves, and all too many new options and choices to be sifted through. 

This influx of new technology invariably presents a potential obstruction to creativity and productivity as it consumes our time, and requires more effort to be invested into the practical implementation of these new found tools.


Acquiring a vast variety of tools can become an addiction, of course, like any other addiction. And I've personally found that when consumption of these tools slows, I begin to digest and integrate what I already have better, and effectively learn to more efficiently utilize what I already have. 

Doing otherwise is like putting too much food on my plate at one time, and not being able to properly consume it all because of the limitations of my body to process it.

My personal experience is telling me to slow down the pace of buying new things, and to direct myself in a balanced manner that allows me to still buy new things without becoming bloated too quickly. 

It's much easier to slow down when the money is tight, and much harder when there's a great sale and available money. But, easy or not, a person has to know when to say no and just use what you have on your plate, here and now.
2013/01/13 19:27:26
yorolpal
John ol pal, you couldn't be more correct.  It's never really been about the tool as much as it is about the ol feller or gal that's wielding it.

And Bapsi ol pal, you couldn't be more incorrect.
(At least about that there Proximity plug)

:-)

2013/01/13 20:48:48
digi2ns
Thats a real good thought John,

I have to tell myself constantly NOT to get caught up in that market war with software.

I think everyone has to ask themselves first what their intentions are getting into DAWs and all the plugs.  Are you a Professional making a living doing commercial work or just the home hobbiest-or somewhere in-between?

As a home hobbiest I would love to be able to accomplish what the pros do (like Nickleback, Creed or Metallica) but ya have to be realistic.

It will be fun to learn everything you can about mixing and mastering and what each requires.  Knowing what it does take eliminates alot of the workload/learning curve on the software side of it.

I love getting caught up messing with all the software stuff but I also keep a POD and guitars outside of the music room so I can sit down with iTUNES or Youtube and just jam along with something to break it all up. 

In the old days it was nothing to spend hours on end playing guitar and very little messing with computers or electronics. Thats easily reversed in todays times


2013/01/13 21:05:45
bitflipper
Question for you all: what plugin effect or instrument still excites/inspires you as much today as it did when you first bought it?


(Stuff you bought last week doesn't qualify.)
2013/01/13 21:34:52
Kreative
@Bitflipper

I think most all of my software still inspires me , to some extent, [some of the titles are listed below] except for some of the Komplete 8 bundle that has less than inspiring sound quality. I bought the rest of my software with deliberation and purpose after choosing as carefully as I could. 

But you never really know exactly what you have until you have it in your hands and put it through the paces. And sometimes it's not always quite as magical as you'd hoped it would be in it's entirety. With Morphestra, for instance, there is a mixture of things that are really great and useful, and others not so inspiring. I'm still digging around and exploring what all that I have yet, since I went on a buying binge last year. The discovery process is unfinished, and the jury is not in, completely. I'm still enjoying the discovery process, and the potential ocean of discovery is deep and wide.

I did particularly enjoy my 8Dio libraries, Albion 1 and Orchestra essentials, and other orchestral libraries I bought. It was a new creative direction for me, and I found it to be great fun.

The OT guitars have been helpful. Trilian is great, and still being fathomed for all its content options.

There is more software that I want, of course, but I'm not feeling a sense of urgency to have it right here and now. There's plenty to play with already, here and now. Thanks to many of you here for your sound advice and suggestions, also. There's a very good group of people on this software forum!

2013/01/13 22:15:13
timidi
bitflipper


Question for you all: what plugin effect or instrument still excites/inspires you as much today as it did when you first bought it?


(Stuff you bought last week doesn't qualify.)

My Roland JV-1080.
(and My martin)
2013/01/13 22:23:17
ampfixer
My Goldtop gets better every day. I don't have to plug it in, just strumming it makes me feel good. Literally, "good" vibrations.
2013/01/13 22:28:24
Glyn Barnes
bitflipper


Question for you all: what plugin effect or instrument still excites/inspires you as much today as it did when you first bought it? 




 
 
The saxes in the Yellowtools Candy sample library.
NI Scarbee Pre Bass
GForce Minimonsta and MTron pro
NI B4 II
Orange Tree Evolution Strawberry
Superior Drummer. 
2013/01/13 23:07:51
Rain
The bundled stuff in Logic - EXS24 (sampler) in particular. I love most of the included plugs.

EZ/Superior Drummer 
Cakewalk's Rapture/Dimension/Zeta
Steinberg Retrologue
Lexicon MPX
Waves' CLA compressors Bundle
Waves Kramer's TTT Bundle
Waves Renaissance Compressor
McDSP Channel G
McDSP AC-Channel
McDSP ML1
POD Farm




Stuff I barely ever/never use - 

Nomad Factory's Magnetic and AMT
Focusrite Scarlett Bundle
NI's Studio Drummer
NI's Abbey Road
Slate's SSD
Rob Papen's plugs
Sampletank
Sonik Synth
T-Racks
Guitar Rig
Amplitube


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