2015/01/20 12:00:51
Mesh
I'm interested in getting that guitar tone (especially Malcolm's) from that particular AC/DC album. I do have Amplitube 3 (including Slash, Fender, & Orange), but not sure exactly how to dial in/emulate that sound. There isn't much on the preset exchange section at IK on this either. (Sorry, I know I'm a bit lazy when it comes to setting it up from scratch and have to rely on looking for it).
 
Another tone I like is Dave Mustane's rig and got some good pre-sets from IK.  I'm about to get some of Joe Bonamassa's tones as well. :)     
2015/01/20 13:29:03
batsbrew
get a real amp.
 
you want a plexi Marshalls JTM45 or clone.....
if you can get LOW WATTS for recording, go for it.
 
in fact, the one watt marshall JMP-1h will get you there, in a low volume recording environ...
 
but so much of THAT SOUND is the visceral impact of volume out of 4x12 cabs with vintage 30s.....
 
Loud, and somewhat clean.
 
you will never get those tones from a sim.
 
2015/01/20 14:21:28
TheStringMaster
I have to agree. There is nothing that can touch the sound coming out of a 4x12 cab driven by a Marshall head. It's very hard to match.
2015/01/20 14:30:36
jamesg1213
Bats is right. I was reading about the Young bros tones a while back, and they both play VERY LOUD, not so much overdriven or distorted, just a lot of air moving
2015/01/20 14:50:46
batsbrew
if you just want to attempt it with sims,
i'd find the best JMP Plexi model you can find..
 
then find the best impulse cabinets sims, for a 4x12 half stack, with a sm57 and a ribbon on it
 
you are looking for low end whoomph, that you cannot get with just EQ
that's the tangible part of the 'power' sound
2015/01/20 15:53:29
Mesh
Thanks guys......unfortunately, I have to stick with sims (for many reasons). I know it's a very tough thing to match, but was hoping something close as possible with the sims. I'll check out the JMP Plexi, 4x12 1/2 stack, sm57 and see what comes out of it (I think all of these are available on Amplitube 3).
 
Yes, I want that "power" sound!!! :)
2015/01/20 16:06:53
batsbrew
just not going to happen with a sim.
 
have not heard it happen, to date.
would love to hear it, tho
2015/01/20 16:31:21
Beepster
You'll definitely want the Marshall sims. I used to be able to get a really good AC/DC rhtyhm tone out of a (real) JCM 800 but I guess that's more the Bon Era guitar tone. Still their tone hasn't changed THAT much. It just got fatter/thicker and that's more likley due to more quality production.
 
In TH2 I've been able to get those types of tones pretty easily but I didn't full on try to dial it in because it's not much use for my current work which is more high gain. I'd say if you are going for Malcom you're definitely gonna want to double your rhythm tracks (as in record it twice as accurately as possible so practice up) then poke around any Marshall presets to see what comes close... then study the preset,  SCRAP IT and rebuild it starting with just the head and cabinet. I find a lot of those presets are okay for getting ideas on how to build up a sound but inevitable they never quite fit right the way you want in a mix and tweaking them just screws everything up.
 
Since you are going for such a simple tone just using the right head and cab sim will get you a long way. Then really spend some time working with whatever room and mic settings the sim has to get it sounding "live" (and by live I don't mean on stage... I mean like a proper sound room, closet, whatever). TH2 does this very well (the full version has a ton more stuff than the Sonar version) but any good sim will have similar options and I've hear that IK stuff is pretty quality. Even Guitar Rig can be coaxed into a passable Marshall tone if you are will to put in some effort but I find their "room" setting to be kind of limited.
 
Also I've been having REALLY good success using my amps line outs with sims instead of plugging straight into the interface. I go from the amp to my mixer and then into my interface so I can keep the signals under control and even do some light EQing on input. The most valuable part of this method though is you are plugging into a proper guitar preamp which most interface's Hi-Z/Inst inputs simply cannot compete with (even if they claim they do).
 
Still you aren't going to get the exact sound of a cranked and glowing 100w head going into a 4x12 cab in a nice room with nice mics but really... who aside from dudes in actual studios or who own their own house can really get away with that kind of mayhem.
 
Cheers.
2015/01/20 16:36:28
Beepster
Oh and another thing about Malcolm's tone is his right hand technique. I think a lot of guys assume that it's all about the amps and getting things dialed in but a LOT of tone comes simply from how the player is attacking the strings. Malcom is a very sharp and aggressive player who makes heavy use of fast palm mutes and/or left hand string dampening to deaden the strings quickly between chords. Kind of like a stabbing/slapping action. Stab the strings with your pick then slap down quickly to stop the chord, rinse, repeat. You can really hear this on a tune like Jailbreak and it's part of what gives ac/dc that nice punchiness.
 
That's a bit of an extreme description but it's hard to describe picking technique through text.
 
2015/01/20 16:45:58
batsbrew
i'd love to hear someone's example of a sim doing a ac/dc tone.....
 
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