Jonbouy


arces 

someone will come in here and start posting about the  great Slash app

musicman100


someone will come in here and start posting about the  great Slash app

iSlash?
 

Beagle

musicman100


someone will come in here and start posting about the  great Slash app

iSlash?
 

iTwo!
(but then iFix it back up )

Ah!  The BIB country stew.

I used BIB for a spanish piece once (Arriba) with utmost success.  I tried it again for a country jangle ... with utmost failure.

My problem was I leaned to hard on BIB (for country genre) and lost my soul-vibe completely.  Now I fear all country music (much of which seems so BIB-ish).  

BIB reminds me that most pop music is successful only because it gets drilled into listeners heads.  I may be wrong on that notion.

Now I'd prefer to just buy real grooves, performances, and chord progressions by real artists.  The only validity I can 'feel' anymore with BIB are the doodle phrases to re-write and re-perform

Ah, Philip, but a lot of the grooves and performances ARE by real artists! 

not all, but a good portion of the real tracks are recordings of real artists performing those chords, riffs, grooves, and even solo parts!

The only validity I can 'feel' anymore with BIB are the doodle phrases to re-write and re-perform

 
Ah, but that is the entire key to it's succesful use and it's main purpose as far is I'm concerned.
 
'Stew' is an excellent description of what comes bundled with it, 'pop' grooves that sound like they are some poor cabaret acts interpretation of 'pop' grooves, rock with a 'hard hitting' middle of the road country edge, blues like it is some mild mannered jazz variant, played in the most inoffensive style that you could hear as backround muzak in an average diner and the rest sounding like a resident jazz trio on a cruise ship.  Yup safe to say most of that serves very little purpose to me.
 
However feed the stylemaker some killer grooves of your own invention, experiment with different progressions, bridge sections, choruses, turnarounds and anything else and it becomes an indespensible writing aid.
 
Add to that if you are lucky some of the generated 'real' rhythm parts might even stay the course and perhaps end up in the final production.
 
You do have to harness it and drive it in order to get it to accede to YOUR demands, otherwise it will inflict the most awful generic sounding 'stew' on you and relentlessly regurgitate copious amounts of it upon your lap.
 
Beware, but having said that it is an ingenious and deceptively capable application with a myriad of uses and nothing else out there comes anywhere close to touching it.
 
The price they ask for it at this time of year just makes it pretty much an annual or bi-ennial no-brainer.  A refreshingly great company to deal with too.

Jonbouy said : blues like it is some mild mannered jazz variant, played in the most inoffensive style that you could hear as backround muzak in an average diner and the rest sounding like a resident jazz trio on a cruise ship.  Yup safe to say most of that serves very little purpose to me. 



Looks like you haven't been paying full attention. biab has had great blues styles for years. made with Sol Philcox and others

If these sound like muzak, give your head a shake!

Press the Band Demo buttons on this page: http://www.pgmusic.com/re...os=win&sortby=name

No doubting that's some fine playin'
 
My observation still stands though, you ain't going to find anything to work with if you want to do something vaguely current that doesn't have made with BIAB stamped all over it.  Great stuff if you want to shoot a couple scenes from the 60's or 70's and want some groovy background music going on for your extras to be swinging and dancing too.
 
Of course there are some exceptional highlights in there it's the best part of 100Gb of stuff the bulk of which is pure cruise ship.
 
Notwithstanding the content which MAY put anyone under 50 off completely, the program itself is a veritable swiss army knife of usefulness whatever genre or age range.
 
btw Welcome to the forums.  Different viewpoints are the stuff of good conversation.
 
But if you think I haven't been paying attention you best hang YOUR head in shame as I'm a big advocate of BIAB round these parts when it often comes under fire from that very same criticism, but from those that haven't been using it for as long as I have and haven't been prepared to look past all that and see the gem of a program it really is.
 
The UI is the other most common criticism you'll see, would you believe?

So your previous post is about how the blues styles suck, and now you agree that that they have 'fine playin', and all it took to change your mind was a single link to hear some music produced by BIAB!

So get set for more!

Now your point has moved to this:
"You ain't going to find anything to work with if you want to do something vaguely current that doesn't have made with BIAB stamped all over it"

More unsubstantiated nonsense. Listen to the compositions that users (myself included) come up with in the User Showcase forum. There are 1,500 of these (each topic is a new composition). You are prepared to write all these off as "BIAB stamped all over it".

Here's some links to some compositions on that forum, just over the last 2 weeks!

http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...e=0&gonew=1#UNREAD

Sounds like bass, piano, cello, violin, guitars, and some great vocals. Are you hearing a BIAB stamp there?
Is it the cello that "stamps BIAB all over it" - if not, what?

http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...p;page=1&fpart=all

http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...amp;page=2&fpart=1


Kindly describe how these have "BIAB written all over them", or if you can't, just drop these inane complaints and snyde remarks about BIAB.

My point is that you seem out of date with your comments on BIAB, yet you are describing yourself as an expert, spreading misinformation to people who are asking about it, so that's why I am calling you out on it.

If there are any songwriters out there, do yourself a favor, and check out what other songwriters are doing with this program here:

http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...amp;Board=usershowcase