I had a wtf??? moment after sitting down at the iZotope booth, hoping maybe I'd get to see a Nectar demo. Then they start showing this silly stutter edit effect and describing it in superlatives you'd normally associate with something revolutionary.

Sure, you can modulate and gate in a variety of ways, but it was just one variation after another on the same theme. I could only take it for about 10 minutes and then moved along. I subsequently passed by the booth many times over the next three days, stopping to see if Nectar was up on the screen, but this stutter effect was what they'd chosen to seriously peddle at the show.

Maybe I'm just too disconnected from electronic genres, and Billy will no doubt refute this, but it seems to me this is just another way for somebody to plant one MIDI note on the PRV and call it a song.

As modulators and manglers go, far more interesting was the Sonnivox Vocalizer across the aisle. It stutters, too. Even cooler, there's the Roland VP7 - now that's a toy I could have fun with!

i've noticed that in todays music climate, strange sounds , sweeps, swirls and edits are becoming commonplace. i remember toiling away on redundant edits just trying to do what this app does in seconds. and since playing with stutter edit it does a whole bunch of sound tweaking at once. sampling, filters, bit crunching, delays,etc all done without freaking out my modest setup. the finger looks very interesting and would be a great addition to my NI family.  Effectrix looks cool too! Even with these effects it all boils down to how creative and intuitive you are with your productions to get something musical.

bitflipper


I had a wtf??? moment after sitting down at the iZotope booth, hoping maybe I'd get to see a Nectar demo. Then they start showing this silly stutter edit effect and describing it in superlatives you'd normally associate with something revolutionary.

Sure, you can modulate and gate in a variety of ways, but it was just one variation after another on the same theme. I could only take it for about 10 minutes and then moved along. I subsequently passed by the booth many times over the next three days, stopping to see if Nectar was up on the screen, but this stutter effect was what they'd chosen to seriously peddle at the show.

Maybe I'm just too disconnected from electronic genres, and Billy will no doubt refute this, but it seems to me this is just another way for somebody to plant one MIDI note on the PRV and call it a song.

As modulators and manglers go, far more interesting was the Sonnivox Vocalizer across the aisle. It stutters, too. Even cooler, there's the Roland VP7 - now that's a toy I could have fun with!

Dave,
 
Gee, you're pulling the truth out of me now ... and the truth is, I was somewhat excited by Stutter Edit seeing the video.  Then I got the demo and yawned.   Most of the demo presets were not very appealing to me.   The one or two that work nicely (for me) don't warrant 149 bucks in my opinion (and that's the 'deal' price).
 
I was trying to be low key because in the past I had expressed my disappointment with some things on this forum and got the usual attacks and whatnots. 
 
A really useful plugin is Effectrix.  Another is The Finger.   There are more.  So I'm not actually going to buy Stutter Edit (at least not yet).  I have no doubt someone will like it more than I do, and some will use it well.   But I'm not jumping on this one.
 
I probably just should have said so from the get go -- but this forum, lately, makes one want to walk on eggs a bit ;)
 
 

letsmakeanalbum


i've noticed that in todays music climate, strange sounds , sweeps, swirls and edits are becoming commonplace. i remember toiling away on redundant edits just trying to do what this app does in seconds. and since playing with stutter edit it does a whole bunch of sound tweaking at once. sampling, filters, bit crunching, delays,etc all done without freaking out my modest setup. the finger looks very interesting and would be a great addition to my NI family.  Effectrix looks cool too! Even with these effects it all boils down to how creative and intuitive you are with your productions to get something musical.

I think the key is, as you say, how creative one is.
 
I love a lot of very modern stuff.  Trance, eletronic, dance, etc -- and I also love classical, jazz, rock, R&B, you name it.
 
But I do tend to listen to the more modern stuff more.   And in the sphere of music available in these genres, there are definitely a lot of wannabes and wishtheycoulds.
 
HOWEVER, there are some really creative music makers as well.  And, yes, they use a lot of SFX (swooshes, sweeps, etc) but within the context of a very musical piece (as opposed to all tricks and no substance).
 
Because so much music is now available so easily via the web and other outlets, it gets hard to find the good stuff because, as is usually the case, we get bombarded with a lot of 'stuff'.
 
But these are just tools.  Whether it be Stutter Edit, Effectrix, Wow, or any other plugin -- it really is all about who is using it and how.
 
 

Could it be we're just running out of ways to mangle sound? Electronic music has coasted all these years by giving us interesting new tonal textures, disguising the often simplistic machine-like musical components. But eventually, aren't you someday bound to run out of new sounds that still sound good?

bitflipper


Could it be we're just running out of ways to mangle sound? Electronic music has coasted all these years by giving us interesting new tonal textures, disguising the often simplistic machine-like musical components. But eventually, aren't you someday bound to run out of new sounds that still sound good?

But if that happens, then we have to go back to just making some good music -- and what will the public think!?!?!
 

bitflipper


Could it be we're just running out of ways to mangle sound? Electronic music has coasted all these years by giving us interesting new tonal textures, disguising the often simplistic machine-like musical components. But eventually, aren't you someday bound to run out of new sounds that still sound good?

BTW, isn't that when the saying "Old is New" comes back?   Look at fashion for example.  When they run out of ideas, they just go back to old school and tweak it a bit.  
 
I think there really are many points in history where we've seen that happen to a great degree.  But at least in music we still have the ability to touch each others' souls a bit when the music is good.
 
If using sound enhancement doesn't take away from that part, things will be fine I'm sure.
 
 
 
 

Of course, we are also running out of ways to put 12 notes together, too.  Just listen to the radio.

;-)

AT


Of course, we are also running out of ways to put 12 notes together, too.  Just listen to the radio.

;-)

;-)

 
They're using all 12???   Wow, coulda fooled me

we are also running out of ways to put 12 notes together

Yeah, it's gotten so bad that even Usher, that paragon of unique style and creativity, has to copy Homer Simpson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgCo5DVX3XQ&feature=player_embedded