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2014/12/17 08:57:39
Jim Roseberry
I'll second Mikes suggestion...
 
Don't assume that because it's new... that the RAM is fine.
Test to be sure...
DDR3 is the most common (hardware) culprit on a modern build machine.
2014/12/17 15:18:50
slartabartfast
First enter the BIOS and "load optimized defaults" to clear any settings that may be problematic.
A quick and dirty way to check the memory is to use the Microsoft diagnostic built into Windows. If you are getting errors on the POST that will probably pick up a problem. Running memtest overnight will be more definitive, but not necessary if the MS utility finds a problem, and a lot more time consuming.
 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/diagnosing-memory-problems-on-your-computer
 
2014/12/17 16:56:33
fireberd
It still goes back to what I said about the diagnostic display on the motherboard.  When you power on and it bombs out, look at the display and note the code that is being displayed.  If it is an error code the list in the manual will tell you what it is. 
 
If there is no error code, then go with the memtest86 or whatever.
2014/12/17 21:12:19
johnnyV
Sorry I was busy all day recording with a client.. The computer actually booted fine this morning without the blue screen. I even re booted once because I couldn't get my A49 to work ( USB was still unplugged from testing duh. Anyhow from the first time I turned it on the light on the mobo has displayed AO. Which according to the manual " IDE initialization is started" which seems to mean nothing,,, There is no IDE conections, all is SATA. 
The signal beep according to gigabyte file;
1.AWARD BIOS 1short beep :System normal 
2.AMI BIOS 1 short beep :Memory Error   = I think this is mine= American Megatrend Inc? 
 
I just went and turned it on to see which BIOS I had and got the blue screen. 
Took advice and reset with F7 to optimize,  Blue screen again. 
 
So looks like memory error. 
I'll go run this test your talking about. 
 
Thanks everyone, I need all the help I can get..  I always win the battle when it comes to technology run amuck. I will not let a little tiny beep win!!  
2014/12/17 21:56:35
johnnyV
OK memory test passed. I will do what Jack is recommending tomorrow,
I'll open up the side and see what the LED Say's when it goes blue screen. 
2014/12/18 08:16:03
The Maillard Reaction
What memory test did you use? Memory problems can be wildly intermittent.
2014/12/18 12:28:36
johnnyV
I ran the Windows memory test as startabartfast posted. I ran 2x and reported no issues.
 
Just now I opened it, re seated the RAM, unplugged the front USB 3.0 to Mobo cable which isn't working anyway? and on start got blue screen. The LED fires off a million numbers and I took note of as many as I could read, last 2 are slower and A2 then it stays at A0. Both these are IDE related and as far as I can tell are not issues but just reporting it has initialized.  
 
Memory error would be 50-55, which I don't see after watching a few re boots. 
There is always the one beep. 
I re booted a dozen times and the pattern seems to be that every second boot is OK. 
I was using the Mobo on /off button inside. 
Note that when it boots , it boots super fast and there seems to be absolutely no issues at all. It's working as expected.
 
I guess because I have 4 sticks of RAM, I could now try removing in pairs. 
 
So far the history is: 
Initial build only 2 sticks of 4 Gig DDR3 1600 RAM 
Single beep from first boot up. 
Machine performed as expected and installed Widows 8.1 to new SSD drive. 
Beep continued, LED always shows A0 after boot. 
Machine was re booted dozens of times without issues while running updates etc. 
First Blue screen was once it was placed in studio. 
So I unplugged all usb devices and the second monitor too. 
I checked all connections inside including the RAM. 
Reading the single beep was memory, I double checked memory channel placement and decided I'd order 2 more sticks of Identical RAM. 
This did not change the behavior so therefore I posted here. 
 
I'm not in love with this Gigabyte Mobo. I'm more used to Asus boards. The instructions are terrible and there's 100 pages about overclocking and very little about the connections. 
 
One other question, the instructions and pictures are not clear regarding SATA connections. 
Other mobos I've used the connection is pointing up and clearly marked 1-2-3-4-5-6-
This stupid board the connectors are sideways and hard to get at.  
There are 2 stacked marked SATA 3 
then a 6 gang stack marked SATA express. 
 
I have my OS SSD drive and the DVD drive connected to the Sata 3 pair
 
my 2 data drives are connected to the sata express.
Is this correct? 
 
and I really appreciate you all taking the time to walk me through this. 
 
I've got to get busy editing yesterdays session so no time for the dumb computer part until tonight. Thanks once again. 
 
 
 
 
2014/12/18 13:04:43
robert_e_bone
According to the motherboard documentation, a single short beep at start up indicates everything is normal.
 
Taken from: Gigabyte Z97X-SOC ATX LGA1150 Z97
(I open PDF docs in Chrome, then I used CTRL+F for Find, for text: Beep)
 
It returned the following text at the first location of Beep it found:
 
"
PW (Power Switch, Red):
Connects to the power switch on the chassis front panel. You may configure the way to turn off your
system using the power switch (refer to Chapter 2, "BIOS Setup," "Power Management," for more
information).
• SPEAK (Speaker, Orange):
Connects to the speaker on the chassis front panel. The system reports system startup status by issuing
a beep code. One single short beep will be heard if no problem is detected at system startup.
• HD (Hard Drive Activity LED, Blue):
Connects to the hard drive activity LED on the chassis front panel. The LED is on when the hard drive
is reading or writing data.
• RES (Reset Switch, Green):
Connects to the reset switch on the chassis front panel. Press the reset switch to restart the computer
if the computer freezes and fails to perform a normal restart.
• CI (Chassis Intrusion Header, Gray):
Connects to the chassis intrusion switch/sensor on the chassis that can detect if the chassis cover has
been removed. This function requires a chassis with a chassis intrusion switch/sensor."
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/12/18 13:59:15
robert_e_bone
This does look like the manual for the motherboard: 
 
http://www.cdromland.nl/productpdf/00162283-manual.pdf
 
Trouble shooting begins on page 110 in the manual.  You can click on the line in the Table of Contents to go straight there.
 
Explanations for displayed 2-digit codes are also listed a couple pages later
 
A0 seems to indicate simply that IDE initialization has started.
 
BoB Bone
 
2014/12/18 15:20:47
johnnyV
Thanks Bob, but I have both the quick guide and full paper copy as well as the PDF so I have everything they supply for this board. And I'm fully aware of all the codes as I also said above.  Only concern I have  is if the term IDE applies to the SATA  and if I am using the wrong connections- see bottom of post #17
 
There is a difference in beeps depending on which  BIOS they used. See my post #14
 
1.AWARD BIOS 1 short beep =:System normal 
2.AMI BIOS 1 short beep= :Memory Error  
I think this is mine as Bios say's at bottom - American Megatrend Inc  
 
 
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