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2014/12/19 06:56:35
fireberd
Drivers will not cause problems at initial power on.  The drivers only come into play when Windows loads and installs the drivers during initialization. 
 
One thing I either missed or was never stated, where the Blue Screen is.  Does this happen at boot up or Before Windows starts to load, or does it happen After or during Windows loading?  If it happens during Widows loading, although it could still be a hardware problem, and nothing is detected on the Power On Self Test, I would be looking at the Operating System drive or even that there was a bad install and it needs to be started over with a drive reformat and complete reinstall.   
 
What SATA port the Operating System is on isn't really an issue.  Just set the boot, in the BIOS, for the drive you want.  If you have a SATA III drive it should be on a SATA III port for maximum speed but it will work OK on a SATA II port.  I have a system with dual boot (Win 7 and Win 8) on separate SSD drives.  The Windows 7 OS drive is on SATA III port 0 and Windows 8 OS drive is on SATA III port 1.  I have an older SATA II hard drive that I use for Sonar Projects, Band in a Box and some other data, and its on SATA III port 2, but it could be on a SATA II port and it would work the same.    My optical drives (2) are on SATA II ports.
2014/12/19 08:40:44
johnnyV
Mike- When I want to download freeware, I don't expect the same as with something you pay for, but sites that are contaminated with DOWNLOAD buttons that are not for the software your after scare me s...less. I always try and go to the original vendors site, not a download site. Download sites are well known to add packages to the original, so next thing you know you have waleware or spyware or the ASK toolbar. If you think that's not savy so be it.
I thank you for putting me on the hunt for a 3rd party Memory test, The one I found seems to work fine and runs from the desktop. It will run forever if you let it. I tested it on my laptop overnight. 
Jack- Thanks for your insight on sata ports, The blue screen is on posting, just after the Bios screen. So yes, where the OS should load. 
The driver issue is for the USB 3.0 port which I know wouldn't cause this issue, but I want to fix that issue as well. The other download might be any BIOS updates which I will approach with caution.
Thanks all, got called to work so this will be on hold until tonight..  
2014/12/19 21:10:41
johnnyV
I got my Wireless USB thing so it's back on line. It ran a few updates, it re booted a few times while doing this without issue and then I shut it off. 
Restart, blue screen..
The blue screen is split second after the Bios screen. 
This is the point were you should get the little moving circle. 
 
I checked in the BIOS and mine if Version F3. 
There is now a Version F6 which say's it has better drivers for SSD drives...Hmm
There is also mention of improved memory something,,hmmm. 
So I'm going to read up on flashing the BIOS, there is a utility built into the bios that I guess makes it easy for idiots like me. 
 
While I was poking around in the bios I noticed mine  under SATA is set in AHCI mode, there is also RAID and IDE modes. is AHCI correct? 
 
I also checked all the drivers and I see there is a Intel Rapid Storage Driver update. 
I downloaded all the drivers and I compared versions in device manager. Most are fine. 
Not sure where you can look at the chipset driver version , should I just go ahead and install it anyhow? 
2014/12/19 23:22:16
Grem
Just a long shot here, but you say that it blue screens right when the little circle thing is suppose to go round and round. Windows uses the graphics card for this. Maybe something up there?
2014/12/19 23:27:35
Grem
Also Johnny, not looking at the Mb manual here, but if this is a Mb made to overclock, then there will be info in there to tell you what those SATA connections are for. Are they native or do they run off a third party chip? How many PCI Express lanes each one takes and so on.
2014/12/19 23:31:19
Grem
I clicked on Mikes links and that brought me to the d/l of a two zip files, memtest and the ISO image. This is useable stuff.
2014/12/20 10:54:07
johnnyV
Thanks Grem, I have been reading the manual, mostly to bone up on flashing the BIOS. There is 2 way to do it one is download the file and run it from a FAT 32 USB drive , the other is a windows utility that downloads the latest version etc. I'm going to try the USB method. 
There seems to be a duo BIOS on this board. You can have a back up. 
 
The Video is built in and the driver is the latest. 
 
The update I have not done is the Chipset driver which looks promising as it mentions both Memory and SSD drive enhancements. 
 
I'm certainly on a steep learning curve here as I've never paid much attention to MOBO details. They always worked without issue. They sort of show the SATA 3 and Express ports and they are numbered, but this Express port is confusing. It say's only one Express device can be attached? There are 4 ports? I will Google SATA Express right now. 
 
But I won't have time until Monday to mess with the BIOS , lots of Family stuff this weekend we are off to see Santa's Workshop in Coeur D Alene Idaho. 
 
%Thanks for all the help everyone
2014/12/20 11:04:21
johnnyV
OK I sorted out the Sata Express, seems my MOBO is the first to have this, it's the next big thing in faster SSD drives. So bottom line is you cn use the ports just like any SATA 3 port or 2 are used and the little port when using this new connection forthcoming on later ssd drives. 
On the left is the Express stack of 2 ports. 
 

2014/12/22 11:02:19
robert_e_bone
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2014/12/22 23:37:52
Grem
Which of those eight ports are your SSD with the OS on it hooked up to? One set of those ports are native to your chipset. The others are from a third party chip. Maybe you got your OS SSD hooked up in the third party ports and may be running into incompatibly problems. Just offering suggestions.
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