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2013/05/18 11:39:38
Elffin
"Nor do I care about it" 

dont bother posting then...

I have an opinion and you have yours.


2013/05/18 12:45:53
John
Elffin


"Nor do I care about it" 

dont bother posting then...

I have an opinion and you have yours.

Actually I'm not posting about it I am posting in rebuttal to both your post and Mikes OP. That is my right as a member.
2013/05/18 12:54:33
rcklln
:/
2013/05/18 13:07:03
ampfixer
The OP does make a very good point. I too, feel that some of today's PC modules we are asked to pay for, will one day be rolled into the DAW. The best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour. Remember when we had to buy ProChannel as expanded? Remember when they said it would open the door for a sea of 3rd party plugs? 

So the sea of 3rd party plugs has been 3 by my count and Pro channel was rolled into the DAW. The bi-monthly producers club is a great way to learn about products made elsewhere. And yes, I've unsubscribed from email spam because I figure anything really significant will get posted here.

Back to the crock pot thread.
2013/05/18 15:40:35
sharke
Isn't this like the Rolling Stones' "last ever tour" for the 15th time?
2013/05/18 15:50:21
DW_Mike
we are asked to pay for, will one day be rolled into the DAW



Yeah, Boost 11 comes to mind. It was one of those hurry and buy while cheap and was included 2 weeks later in the new version for free.
Only those that bought within the last 24 hours I think it was, got a refund.


Mike
2013/05/18 16:04:35
Beepster
Well if you guys think that's bad if I had waited an extra month or so to buy Sonar I would have gotten EVERYTHING I have now for $200 less (Production Suite upgrade -$100, X2 upgrade -$100). But I got over it... mostly. Kind of silly getting upset over promo fliers though. That's just how companies roll these days. I also get the impression that Cake doesn't really do these things to be conniving. It strikes me that the promo/marketing department are just kind... weird/disorganized? They are musicians after all. ;-)
2013/05/18 16:08:32
slartabartfast
So the objection is that the phrase "last chance to save"  implies that a savings will never be offered again. In that sense, if the company wants to retain the option to lower the price again in the future, they should use a phrase like "this chance to save ends on some date." Good point. Of course one could also consider the possibility that it is not forever that is implied but just "until this particular sale is over." Analysis of a statement should consider the unsaid, tempered by the cultural context of the communication. 

I assume from some of your other posts that you are more than eight years old, and have been living in some part of the developed world for at least a few years. If so, it is surprising that you should not have a better grasp of the culture. The "last chance to save" phrase is a dead giveaway that this is not intended as a communication from one honest human being to another, but rather one of the magical incantations of the subculture known variously as Marketing or Advertising. When dealing with members of those tribes, it is foolish and potentially dangerous to apply the linguistic analysis one would use to parse a common English phrase. 

In some cultures it is considered polite to offer a man the use of one's wife. Nevertheless, it can be expected in those circumstances that the guest should politely decline the offer to avoid sometimes severe consequences. When dealing with members of the Marketing clan, it is understood that one will not expect anything said to be truthful in the common sense of the word, except that if one pays the actual price, one will receive something in return. Even then it is not uncommon to find that what one has paid for is not strictly speaking what one may have been led to believe. 



2013/05/18 17:29:11
backwoods
In some cultures it is considered polite to offer a man the use of one's wife.


That sounds like a "swinger" "tribe". 


I take the term "last chance to save" to mean the current offer is about to expire. So when the offer does not expire, but is instead extended you would have to say it is false advertising, if the term "last chance to save" is advertising like you say it is.


Cakewalk's facebook page is depressing too. It is gaining new followers at a great clip but Cakewalk just repeat themselves too often to warrant visiting it. Every other post is about the LA-2A module. 
2013/05/18 18:11:38
chilldanny
backwoods

Cakewalk's facebook page is depressing too. It is gaining new followers at a great clip but Cakewalk just repeat themselves too often to warrant visiting it. Every other post is about the LA-2A module.  

In fairness, it's quite probable that the increase in followers is due to the CA-2A and the great 
reviews it has received.  It is after all, a pretty sweet plug for the price.
However, generally I would agree with you.





As for the deals, I have always felt the "Last chance!" quickly followed by "Extended offer!" 
marketing strategy has often made Cakewalk appear quite desperate to shift some units.  
My own opinion of course, and I understand that Cakewalk exists to make money.

Am I right in thinking that these extended offers only ever apply to Cakewalk products, and
not third-party products such as those from Overloud, iZotope, PSP etc?

Just curious and probably entirely wrong


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