2013/05/09 18:21:45
paulo
Beagle


While I do agree that you probably shouldn't even try to run it on nonwin7 system, I'm not sure i agree it will get cheaper.  History says $79 is as cheap as it gets and then the next version comes out.


History says BOGOF is cheaper, no ?
2013/05/09 18:42:19
Mooch4056
paulo


Just looking at the specs in your signature I'd say keep your money in your pocket or put it towards your new pc. X2 needs the X2a patch to solve quite a few issues with it and X2a will not even load on xp or vista, has to be win 7 or 8, so unless your new pc is gonna be ready any time soon I wouldn't be in any rush to buy X2 because you won't be using it. CW seem to be pushing deals on X2 all the time now, so I think we're into milk it mode now before X3 or whatever. It's only going to get cheaper from here on in.

X2a loaded on my vista 




It's not supported I know ... But it loaded and it runs 
2013/05/09 19:00:08
Mesh
Although Vista might work out fine, I'm still getting Win7 as it's a very good OS and would like to have a copy of it as it's more stable with the drivers/supported by Microsoft etc...

Mooch, what's your experience with X2 & Vista?

 

2013/05/09 20:42:12
Beagle
paulo


Beagle


While I do agree that you probably shouldn't even try to run it on nonwin7 system, I'm not sure i agree it will get cheaper.  History says $79 is as cheap as it gets and then the next version comes out.


History says BOGOF is cheaper, no ?

Not IMO because they bring the price back up to regular non-sale pricing, so "cost" is still higher than this sale price from an out of pocket perspective.
2013/05/09 22:01:26
spacey
Mesh



  
I didn't want to pass that up if it's "ROCK SOLID" as Spacey says.....rooight?
 
No... Spacey told you what those he asked for help said. One thing for sure if you get it, you can define rock solid because it's sure not set in stone.
If I'm still not clear enough....I used it for one project that was nothing but a PITA and now it does nothing but process my guitar and .wav drum files while I jam....and it won't even do that without crappin out the audio more less handle a recording project.
But that's because I don't know what I'm doing and need a new PC because it is rock solid.
 
 
 
2013/05/09 22:16:16
Mooch4056
Mesh


Although Vista might work out fine, I'm still getting Win7 as it's a very good OS and would like to have a copy of it as it's more stable with the drivers/supported by Microsoft etc...

Mooch, what's your experience with X2 & Vista?



I for sure encourage windows 7 or 8 for x2.  I hope to buy a whole new computer by the end of the summer then I'll switch to windows 7 or 8




I haven't had problems with vista and x2a. However I don't use a lot of midi. I use it with superior drummer and for piano (true pianos) other wise I just record acoustic instruments. No problems with it since September  (knock on wood 
2013/05/10 08:37:55
Mesh
spacey


Mesh



  
I didn't want to pass that up if it's "ROCK SOLID" as Spacey says.....rooight?
 
No... Spacey told you what those he asked for help said. One thing for sure if you get it, you can define rock solid because it's sure not set in stone.
If I'm still not clear enough....I used it for one project that was nothing but a PITA and now it does nothing but process my guitar and .wav drum files while I jam....and it won't even do that without crappin out the audio more less handle a recording project.
But that's because I don't know what I'm doing and need a new PC because it is rock solid.
 
 
 
Sorry to hear that Michael and I totally mis-read your post......it just all flew over my pea brain.....
 
As with all versions of any software, nothing is going to be perfect.....there's always going to be issues/bugs etc..., but in your case in getting a lot of crashes.......summin sure aint right....(I can only hope my new build won't suffer the same).
 
Are you using an older version of Sonar or are using another software? 
2013/05/10 10:01:16
spacey
Mesh


spacey


Mesh



  
I didn't want to pass that up if it's "ROCK SOLID" as Spacey says.....rooight?
 
No... Spacey told you what those he asked for help said. One thing for sure if you get it, you can define rock solid because it's sure not set in stone.
If I'm still not clear enough....I used it for one project that was nothing but a PITA and now it does nothing but process my guitar and .wav drum files while I jam....and it won't even do that without crappin out the audio more less handle a recording project.
But that's because I don't know what I'm doing and need a new PC because it is rock solid.
 
 
 
Sorry to hear that Michael and I totally mis-read your post......it just all flew over my pea brain.....
 
As with all versions of any software, nothing is going to be perfect.....there's always going to be issues/bugs etc..., but in your case in getting a lot of crashes.......summin sure aint right....(I can only hope my new build won't suffer the same).
 
Are you using an older version of Sonar or are using another software? 

My old friend- the lack of being understood is my fault alone.
I fully agree and have dealt with issues since 1992 when I started digital recording.
To answer your question - all I do is what I stated. I use X2a so I can hear my guitar and a drum
part so I can jam. It won't even do that without audio crap. PLEASE don't tell me what I can spend time trying out to correct it's problems....I DON"T CARE what its problems are.
 
My attitude is the result of MANY issues that have built up over the years.
 
A major issue of mine is I got full.
 
I got full of spending time and money for problems that I was left to resolve. 
I got tired of Cakewalk selling me software that wouldn't work on systems that exceeded the minimum requirements they posted. If it will only work on a custom made special order PC made by a special tech that knows...then they ought to sell the crap with one and stop listing a bogus minimum requirement and letting folks
I got tired of spending more time trying to work around issues than making music.
 
The only reason I kept trying was because of the investment I had made and specifically for software such as all the Spectrasonics stuff that required a very good system and DAW host to process their programs. Thousands of dollars in software that should be working with the host and not knowing what problems are created and how to resolve them is just not something I care to spend my time doing.
I thought computer technology and the host had finally reached the capabilities only to find out I was spending all my time chasing the same old stinking tail.
 
The desire to learn about high fidelity recording in the digital realm has been chipped away by having to tolerate incompetence and compatibilty failures to the point where there is nothing left to chip at. I gave up.
 
BUT...alas...what I learned was that instead of spending time on trying to resolve issues that I spent the last 3 years learning how to build guitars and pickups.
The major bonus to that is that is - no time as been wasted- the guitars and pickups work! To top that off I spend more time playing my guitars!! THAT is the reason I wanted to record in the first place- I thought it would inspire me to play guitar again.
 
Funny how things work out. 
 
IMO their recording software is no different than the way they handle the forum software. It's not my fault. It is what it is.
The way I see it....they'll put 10 buttons in front of you and if 6 of them work then they have succeeded.
Most businesses operate with that exact same mentality. If they hit 60% then they can make money.
 
PRS guitars has a very savy owner. He will tell you flat out the exact same thing.
What he doesn't say is; Yes, that means that there are four guitars out of ten hanging on the wall that are not good ones. He knows that their are folks that will never know the difference.
 
Well I got tired of 4 of the buttons not working and having to baby sit the other 6.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2013/05/10 10:26:05
Mesh
So you're an analogue guy? LOL....(J/K)

I'm sure I'd be pissed off too with the software if I couldn't get a simple thing going like trying to just jam with a few backup tracks.....especially when it's built to do so much more complex things.

I've been fotunate (since Sonar 3) in not having any issues with the software that couldn't be resolved.

If I get the funds available in the future, I'd really like to have you build me a new axe (I've been playing a 10year old Jackson). I've seen some of your work and I'm envious. 
   
 
2013/05/10 10:30:27
daryl1968
Mesh - buy a puppy - much more fun 
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