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2013/05/06 11:09:23
Ham N Egz
I am pleased and how CIVIL the discussions are in this thread.

I am not a defeatist, but I am in Bubbas camp about not fighting it all, if its my short straw, then so be it.

However, Spacey brought up a good point, and I sure do wonder what my brother-in-laws designs might be. I think a visit to a lawyer and drawing up some papers might protect me from the real issue.
2013/05/06 11:22:17
Mesh
musicman100


I am pleased and how CIVIL the discussions are in this thread.

I am not a defeatist, but I am in Bubbas camp about not fighting it all, if its my short straw, then so be it.

However, Spacey brought up a good point, and I sure do wonder what my brother-in-laws designs might be. I think a visit to a lawyer and drawing up some papers might protect me from the real issue.

Absolutely!!!
 
With the future being very uncertain an unpredictable as well as being prepared for any disastrous outcome, I also was planning on getting it all in writing, looking into getting some food insurance or some sort of 3+ month supply (I think Costco offers this), and a gun for protection.
 
I'm not very confident with anyone on the "outside" in providing help when I truly need it.
 
2013/05/06 12:23:23
drewfx1
Every generation has "end of times" sort of fears, though the causes change.

Some of it might be instinctive, some of it is very likely fear mongering, but I also have come to believe that some of it is pure self-importance - i.e. the world is going to end in my lifetime.

But there is very little real evidence to support any of it. Yes, it makes some sense to be prepared for natural disasters in areas prone to such things.

But the idea of imminent global economic collapse just isn't supported. Renowned value investor Warren Buffet is still buying stocks. Now before anyone argues with this, I have a rule: I only take economic advice from billionaires. I figure, "if someone knows so much they should be a billionaire by now". I'll start believing all of this economic fear when Wall Street shows even the slightest sign of concern over it. Yeah, I know, the finance experts who devote their life to it are all idiots while the people stocking up on ammo know "the truth", right? Really?

What we have here is a bunch of faulty reasoning, misinformation, irrationality and the like. Just because excessive debt, for instance, is a long term problem doesn't make it an imminent crisis. A lot of that is just political BS, plain and simple. And if it's a difficult long term problem, the rational solution is not to buy ammo, it's to evaluate the solutions. The idea that it's somehow more rational to prepare for "the end" than to consider compromise involving sacrifices, thus making an artificial future crisis inevitable, is not a remotely reasonable argument. 

People routinely worry about stupid stuff and ignore real problems.



But I'm stocked up on guitar strings, just in case.
2013/05/06 12:30:02
The Maillard Reaction


:-)

Oh no... he had to go and say *it*... the S is gonna HTF now.

:-)
2013/05/06 13:26:14
Mystic38
Anyone who thinks things are alright must have their head so deep in the sand its not funny. I think the only worthy discussion is what will come first?..

a) Economic Collapse:?
There is a serious economic collapse ahead and it frankly any financial fix is so unpopular the self serving politicians of all parties would never vote for it....unemployment of 25-30%, riots, starvation, massive increase in crime rates... 

b) Climate Collapse:?
The human virus through over-population has devasted the ecosystem with over-fishing, over-farming, deforestation, pollution and contributed to what is being projected as almost irreversible climate change... Hurricanes like Sandy will seem a trivial regular occurrence, massive deaths from hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, famine, earthquakes, food and water shortages, riots, civil war..

no matter how bad things are right now...a point in time will come when these are the "good old days"

2013/05/06 13:33:50
The Maillard Reaction
2013/05/06 13:40:03
Starise
 It's the end of the world as we know it......yes.

   It wasn't the same yesterday, won't be the same tomorrow. Get ready to adjust normal. All the preparation in the world only buys some time from the inevitable.

 Enjoy today, prepare for tomorrow and let the rest up to God.
2013/05/06 13:42:58
spacey
Oh boy...here we go again.
2013/05/06 13:43:55
SteveStrummerUK

Not me.

I'm reformed.

2013/05/06 13:56:26
spacey
SteveStrummerUK


Not me.

I'm reformed.

LOL.
 
I learned many years...make that many, many...ago that "don't walk on the grass" signs weren't
to protect the grass.
 
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