2013/05/05 11:10:22
bapu
drewfx1


I can.

I do.
2013/05/05 11:25:29
The Maillard Reaction
MakeShift


I have been trying to ween back my addiction to plugs.  I have n't bought any until just last week when I finally could n't stand it any more and bought  the Scaffham S-Gear amp sim.  Valhalla has been on my radar for a long time.  I am afraid to even demo it, or I will want it.


Does any one have a greater preference when I do decide to pull the trigger..V Room or VVV?

I don't have many plug ins.


I'm getting a new hot rod system and the one thing I have been looking forward to is trying the latest greatest digital reverbs.

I'm actually looking forward to loading even fewer EQs, Compressors, etc. on this new system.

The latest digi reverbs seem to be the only thing really interesting or compelling to me.


In the interview I mentioned you get to hear Michael Carnes explain that it was a big ah-hah moment for him when he realized that his algorithms work even better on Native CPUs than dedicated dsp. I get the sense that there is going to be a period of improvement and exploitation that we will get to enjoy.


best regards,
mike
2013/05/05 12:51:51
Danny Danzi
From using digital verbs for so long, I've come to the conclusion that they all sound so similar, you can make them sound a like with a little work. That tells me that it's really not important to have several. Some have more options than others...some have gates built in, different ways of filtering or high pass/low pass....but in my opinion, they are pretty much the same to me.

I also feel that 3 verbs are all that's needed. One decent verb like Sonitus or the decent verb of your choice, one great verb with a name that makes a difference that can be heard instantly like Lexicon or the Rolls Royce of verbs in my opinion, the UAD EMT 250. Nothing sounds like that thing...it just needs to be experienced and you'll hear what I mean. The 3rd choice would be a good impulse loader with a nice library of impulses. Some free ones are ok, but your best bet is to pay for a library. I like Pristine Space as my impulse loader or the Waves IR's. To me, those are the only verbs you need unless there is a specific reason or option included in another that makes so much of a difference, you need to have it.

-Danny
2013/05/05 16:31:00
SteveStrummerUK
 
Can you have too many reverbs?
 
 
Why yes. Yes you can.
 
'8' is exactly the absolute perfect number of reverbs to have.
 
'9' would be a tad excessive. '10' is just greedy and '11' would be completely showing off.
 
On the other hand, '7' might be not quite enough.
 
Yes, indeedy-doody for sure, '8' is definitely the right amount of reverberations to be in possession of.
 
But don't use them all at once on the same track.
 
Oh no.
 
That would probably sound a bit echoey.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2013/05/05 17:24:22
jbow
That would probably sound a bit echoey.

 
That would be a renouned reverb.
2013/05/06 05:41:57
Jonbouy
Danny Danzi

<snip>
Some free ones are ok, but your best bet is to pay for a library. I like Pristine Space as my impulse loader or the Waves IR's.
 
<snip>
 
-Danny
This is the key with convo processors, the real differences are in the Impulses you use, if you have crap impulses the results will be rubbish, and it's worth spending the money on a decent library if you can.
 
The Numerical Sound guy has some excellent stuff he did for VSL he also worked on the Alicia Keys Kontakt library.  Not cheap, over-priced perhaps but with libraries you'll get what you pay for.
 
Most of the newer convolution reverbs have turned into hybrids these days I guess because convolution only deals with the time constant aspects of the tail which gives that sense of lacking by itself and I'm not convinced by one particular verb doing what I want which is why I keep the convolution processing aspect simple (and free) and setup the chain to do the filtering and modulation myself.
 
If I had the money though I'd probably just plump for the Waves IR-1 for the convolution stuff and be done with it.
 
Oh, and there's some good material here if you want some impulse stuff to mess with.
 
http://www.openairlib.net/
 
The St Magaret's church set particularly is fantastically done with lots of mic positions, they are mostly B-Format files so if you are clever when converting to stereo you can have your impulses facing whatever way you like from whatever position you want in the room.
 
Here, they used these impulses to create a hybrid 3 dimensional auralization of the space computed along with the visual animation.  Check the video tab.
 
http://www.openairlib.net/auralizationdb/content/st-margarets-church-national-centre-early-music
2013/05/06 07:31:41
The Maillard Reaction


Has anyone listened to the Michael Carnes inteview podcast?

He speaks about digital reverb design. I thought it was fun to listen too.
2013/05/06 07:34:50
The Maillard Reaction


How about Dr. Barry Blesser's web page? 

He has a selection of lectures on mp3 available3 here:

http://www.blesser.net/spacesSpeak.html

I'll be listening to these today. :-)
2013/05/06 14:19:48
Jonbouy
mike_mccue


Has anyone listened to the Michael Carnes inteview podcast?

He speaks about digital reverb design. I thought it was fun to listen too.
Define 'fun' here?
 
I'm too carried away having a belly-laugh listening to strategies for making pond water clear and free of green algae growth to give this any time just now. 
 
And a lecture on mp3? 
 
Isn't that about as worthwhile as finding out the best compounds to make gramophone records from depending on the spin speed and whether you are using a needle or a new fangled stylus or not?
 
When's the next party at McQ's place?...
 
<shrugs>
2013/05/06 14:20:41
daryl1968
yes
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