I may be wrong but check your Saxe(s) in DimLE GPO; I've got about 10 Sax choices in DimPro, half of which are extremely decent;

I'm guessing DimLE/GPO has only a couple GBytes of 'wave-synths'.

Also, check CW website samples of DimPro (GPO) Sax, etc.

The Saxes are what made me switch, Mark.

Why is GPO in DimPro better than GPO in DimLE? GPO is GPO, is it not?

Unfortunately, DimLE-GPO appears to be only a sample of GPO. I think it has about 1/2 of GPO; albeit DimPro Orchestras are more G-Byte intensive than GPO.

AKA: I use nothing from DimLE, except 'Xmas Bells' if I recall (which may be under Bells)

Note: DimPro has Vista issues and may still have 32-bit limitations; but CW seems to imply (in Sonar-7 ads) that DimPro upgrades are Vista do-able.

Once you play a DimPro "Les Paul" guitar or "Grand Piano" (which neither GPO nor DimLE seems to me to have) ... methinks you'll be a believer.

Philip

Unfortunately, DimLE-GPO appears to be only a sample of GPO. I think it has about 1/2 of GPO; albeit DimPro Orchestras are more G-Byte intensive than GPO.

I was about to cry false advertising, but then I looked closer at Cake's description of the GPO that comes with DimLE:
"In addition, you get the special edition of the Garritan Pocket Orchestra, expressively programmed for Dimension LE."

Its the 30GBytes worth of wave nuances in DimPro Orchestra vs a fraction of that in DimLE and GPO Orchestras.

IMHO, the relatively few (10-20) DimPro Guitars and Pianos are so (sur-)realistic that I'm blown away. I'd never buy a real guitar or piano after this; and, I have hundreds of cheezy ROMpler pianos and guitars I eschew henceforth.

So, what your saying is, don't get my hopes up with DimLE, and to go for the DimPro upgrade special, right?

I haven't checked out the version of GPO in DimLE yet so I'm not sure how much of the original Kontakt programming is carried over. If it's like the Kontakt programming, then just playing through the sounds may be disappointing. The power of GPO is in the controllers. I'm not sure if DimLE has Flex Envelopes which are used heavily in the GPO Kontakt programming. The flex envelopes shape the attack of the sounds and will change from a slow attack at low velocities to fast and heavier attacks at higher velocities. The mod wheel in the Kontakt version controls both volume and timbre. The combination of these controllers give GPO great flexibility in writing without having to stop and change articulations for many of the sounds.

I use VSL, EWQLSO, Project SAM, Kirk Hunter and other libraries but still find myself coming back to GPO for woodwinds, strings and the french horns (plus some of the other brass mutes which the other libraries seem to miss). I also use the piano quite a bit in the full GPO as I like it's smooth virtual velocity layers.

Jim

Exactly Mark ... DimLE/GPO was a complete disapointment for me; no better than TTS, GS, and GM. My FantomX SRX-06 Complete Orchestra was far superior to DimLE/GPO's limited polyphony until I got DimPro.

The 2 DimPro free expansion packs aren't nearly as spectacular as DimPro-GPO; but are worth downloading (only a few G-Bytes) from CW.

Seriously; DimPro absolutely redeems the $230 or so I paid for it and is better than 85% of my Fantom ROMplers (including Roland's SRX-06 Complete Orchestra). That is saying alot ... Just make sure you have ample disk space or another dedicated H. Drive.

Which would you prefer; one or 2 quality 'Les Paul' overdrive guitars or grand pianos (in DimPro) that sound better than anything out there ... or 1000 cheezy guitar and piano synths that waste your time and make you feel like another 2nd-rate MIDI-synth?

DimPro is (IMHO) the very best for complete orchestra quality for 85-90% of my rock and orchestra needs. DimPro's few pianos and guitars are so chimy and realistic I would never consider buying a 'real' sax, guitar, or piano ... nor some other Roland ROMpler ... nor some other synthesizer ... nor Virius synthesizer, etc.

And in what department do you work at Cakewalk?
Just kidding. Thanks for the information and opinion. Another question: Does the GPO you speak of come with DimPro, or is that a separate expansion pack you have to purchase.

I'm just a noob; so be aware of it being just 2-cents worth of advice.

Yes, the GPO I use comes with DimPro.

Also remember, you adjust (peradventure) many parameters of the quality of each DimPro instance.

I have 4 DimPro's running on each song. I've only had to freeze tracks (to conserve CPUs) in one complex symphony ... to prevent drop-outs.

(And, no; my pieces are not out there yet; hopefully we'll critique each other more somewhat in that day)

the strings that come with dim pro are better than much of garritan pocket in my opinion.
and some of the expansion pack stuff, woodwinds oboes are good too. i dont know how le sounds but to my mind dim pro is way better than the tts1!
there is no comparison.

As somebody who just ordered Dim Pro today, I have to say thanks to you guys for helping me get excited about my purchase. I was looking forward to it before, but am really looking forward to it now.