Hi everyone,
 
I feel embarrassed to even ask this question on here, but I've never been faced with this before and was hoping you might be able to help me out please?
 
I have a client that sent me a midi drum file of him playing on a Roland V Drums kit that he wants me to run through one of my modules to cop better sounds.
 
The file he sent was recorded in real time without adjusting his tempo to the correct time in the Sonar work file. He has it at 98.50, yet when I tap using the metronome, it comes out to about 116 bpm.
 
If I change it to 116, of course it really speeds up way too fast. I've tried importing just the midi aspect of the file with a starting point on my end of 116, but that still made it too fast. Do you have any ideas for me as to how I can get the right tempo so I can quantize this and fix it to time the right way?
 
I'm stumped on how to fix this because I've never been faced with this before. Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)

Set Measure/Beat At Now (Ctrl-M) is your friend, but you have to do it in 8.5.2 or less. It got hosed in the most recent patch.
 
Google:
 
brundlefly "set measure/beat at now" site:forum.cakewalk.com
 
to find some of my previous posts on doing this.
 

brundle, sorry to ask, but can you be a little more specific? If it's too in depth for you to post, that's understandable and I'll try to search for the answers. I was just hoping there might be a quick fix. When I do what you said using Sonar 7, the window (ctrl m) pops up with options of 1, and 1.000.

Another option is below it that says meter and has beats=4 and beat value=4. I tried messing with them and it keeps on reporting back "unable to define values". So if it's not too much trouble to explain, I'm all ears. If it is, that's fine...I'll try to see what else I can dig up. Thanks for the reply. :)

Nevermind, found some info...thanks.

Danny,

Just for grins, go to the start of the project, click on "Insert"-->"Tempo Change"-->"Change the most Recent tempo"...set it to 98.50 and see how the track playback sounds...

Papa, thanks....that sure would be a heck of a lot simpler than the other methods I found. LOL!! They are really detailed which is probably why brundle told my sorry ass to search for them. ;)

Ok, but in using this method, how would I start the project as far as bpm? He's numerically at 98.50....when I tap him out, he's at 116. Do I mess with his original project or import the midi into a new project where the tempo is set at 116 before I import then do the tempo change thing? If I set that to 98.50 won't the metronome be out of time Papa? That's the problem with it as it is now. I'll mess with it and get back to you. :) Thanks!

brundle, sorry to ask, but can you be a little more specific? If it's too in depth for you to post, that's understandable and I'll try to search for the answers.

Sorry. Just trying to leverage stuff I've posted previously. Here's a good one:


http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1802500

If you'd like, send me a copy of just the MIDI file (PM me your email address and I'll send you mine) and I'll play around with it later today...Admittedly, something sounds a bit screwy! *LOL*

I did this to myself last night, but sort of deliberately.  The piece was locked at 80bpm and I recorded a 'freestyle' Rhodes lead, paying little attention to the click track.  The impact of which is that it plays in 'time' but is no longer quantizable, other than doing it manually.  In my case it's not an issue because the data is not time critical, unlike the drum track.  What you really need is to be able to copy the note and timing information in absolute terms into a track with a different tempo.

import the midi into a new project where the tempo is set at 116 before I import then do the tempo change thing?

Yes, you could do it this way, but you'd have to have the tempo really acurately counted, and it would have to be very steady. Better to use SM/BAN. The instructions are more complicated than the actual task. If the tempo is pretty steady, and the clip starts at 1:01:000, you can just count 8 bars and Set Measure/Beat At Now for the MIDI event that should be at 9:01:000, and see how that works. If it's close, you can then go to the end of the track, and Set a beat at or near the end. Then set additional beats as necessary to tighten things up in the middle.


But again, don't try this with 8.5.3; it's got problems.