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2012/02/14 18:46:11
Andrew Rossa
In case you missed it, we have been updating the blog almost every day with new stories. Today, Cakewalk's Mike Trujillo tells you why you need a subwoofer. 

Why you need a subwoofer


And that's not all, many other Cakewalk staff have been posting on the blog over the past few week (including me).

Visit the Cakewalk Blog to read more.
2012/02/14 23:48:40
JonD
Not me.  That's why I use EQ/ a high pass filter.
 
Never had any problems/complaints about "rumbling" in my recordings.
 
Guess I'm just too ("old school").  
 
2012/02/15 00:12:58
Scott Lee
Hi All,

Interesting post by Cakewalk.

This was actually a bit of my rant with the pro channel. While I liked the idea of the intergraded EQ system, I wanted a GUI representation of the EQ itself much like you'd find on FabFilters EQs (Or even the original Sonitus EQ). Easier to "monitor" whats going on below with active meters running and a fluid EQ gui.

Subwoofer too? Id save the money and purchase proper near field monitors before introducing anything that would "influence" the mix even further.  Not setup correctly could be catastrophic for your mix.





2012/02/15 02:58:40
Flywheel
They should be one entitled why do I need a subwoofer for. Never needed one before on satelite speakers (computer speakers) see no reason why I need cakewalk to be selling me the idea. Unless its commission based.

So what Subwoofer do you recommend?

Has Roland designed a Subwoofer?

How much do you get paid for advertising?

Bakers bake, KRK sell monitors and woofers.
2012/02/15 03:10:09
ba_midi
Scott Lee


Hi All,

Interesting post by Cakewalk.

This was actually a bit of my rant with the pro channel. While I liked the idea of the intergraded EQ system, I wanted a GUI representation of the EQ itself much like you'd find on FabFilters EQs (Or even the original Sonitus EQ). Easier to "monitor" whats going on below with active meters running and a fluid EQ gui.

Subwoofer too? Id save the money and purchase proper near field monitors before introducing anything that would "influence" the mix even further.  Not setup correctly could be catastrophic for your mix.



I thought it was an curious post as well... as if maybe they had a huge overstock of sub-woofers and were doing some marketing LOL.


I actually agree with you Scott.  While I also think having a sub woofer is a good "check" point, it can also be used poorly if a proper room balance/adjustment isn't done prior to deployment.


And, I would say that without good freq analysis, even a sub could create misguided mixes.


Proper near fields are definitely critical, however.


I wonder what drove this post by cake?  It just seems so "out of the blue".





2012/02/15 04:02:49
thomasabarnes
Seems like Cakewalk is attempting to draw attention to the Cakewalk blog.

There are some really nice articles to read, too. They have my attention, now! Noel also started a thread and made a post with a link to an article on the Cakewalk Blog. Reading there can sharpen the wits (related to music production circles stuff,) bring to one's attention useful chunks of info, and expose to some great tips and tricks, all relevant to sound authoring, SONAR, music production, and the like. :)

I'll start visiting the Cakewalk blog more, now, especially since it's getting to be kind of gloomy in the forums, since X1 was released, and negativity started spreading more so than in the past. The blog is like a new thing that's like a breath of fresh air. :)
 
Thanks for posting Andrew Rossa! :)
2012/02/15 04:29:08
Flywheel
I agree a subwoofer is good especially if you got neighbours from hell and you need to make a statement about how loud they can be a good blast of bass might quieten them.

However, I agree good surroundings good flooring is needed if you are using bass subwoofer.

I look at the blogs from time to time good source of info!

Looks like Cake are waking up from out of thier slumber!
2012/02/15 05:08:02
joakes
I mix on well balanced nearfields (Samson Resolves).

I check it (them) out on the car stereo, on my hifi and on the PC  speakers (+ sub) that I use for games.

Having a sub is only a part of the checking equation, nearfields being the heart and soul of the process.

Voilà, my 2 Euro Cents

Cheers,
Jerry
2012/02/15 06:34:27
panup
You need subwoofers to check there's no rumble in the mix? Curious reason. Blog poster, use HPF - it's built in the ProChannel and it will save your money. 
If you add subwoofer to your system, it's not as straightforward as adding a new plugin to a mix. Subwoofers require good, well tuned room or they make your listening environment unpredictable, if not totally unusable. 

I mix on Genelec 8040A  nearfields + 7060A sub but my control room is big enough, well treated and measured  by Genelec engineers. I don't remember any mix over the years I would have saved because subwoofer made me hear rumble. If that is your main concern, dear Mr. Cakewalk blog poster, I'd suggest you to use your money on your tracking room isolation.  Meanwhile, just add 2nd pass HPF to each track that is not bass or kick drum.
2012/02/15 07:47:40
anotherzen
i just use Fabfilter Pro-Q too and headphones. 

I have big problems with this kind of blog posts telling people to do something but not telling them why, how 
or giving actual information.

Spend money on a sub and on our new plug-in = your music is going to be awesome in a car.  Its just not a 
good blog post for a #proaudio site. In my oppinion.


edit: sorry if i seem negative, i just think the blogpost was written unprofessionally because it gave no real
insight to why you might need it, how to pair it with your type of equipment, what kind of sub should you get, 
what is a subwoofer anyway and can i use any subwoofer i find? aso. And you don't really need it, so the 
headline is obviously made to make people want to comment about it.
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