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2013/05/28 08:32:26
FastBikerBoy
mike_mccue


I sure wish Cakewalk would make SONAR worth $3200.


best regards,
mike


It already is. It just doesn't cost that.  
2013/05/28 09:20:00
Jim Roseberry
I just hope it doesn't get me banned from here. I know the Bakers don't approve of stuff like this...but then again, not too many people are going to spend $3200 on something like this so I don't think there will be competition any time soon.



I don't think your response was in any way derogatory toward Cakewalk/Sonar.
Sequoia's target market is a lot different than Sonar's.  Far more narrow/niche
If you need those specific features, it's worth the additional cost.
If not, it's absolutely not worth the extra cost.   
2013/05/28 09:20:07
Dave Modisette
Sandmännchen




Timo is right. Sampliquoia may not be the first choice if your doing midi things, but its audio possibilities and the sound is awesome, the metering is better (tpm etc.) and way more flexible. And in Samplitudes Mixer I can see what`s going on, in Sonar I have to guess it.
Don`t get me wrong: Sonar is a very good and for me almost stable DAW. But for mixing I prefer Samplitude. 

Look at all those beautiful Aux sends.  See how many you can see at one time.  This is a good thing.  I would imagine that it's set up more or less like Samplitude ProX in that a post fader send is one color and a pre-fader send is another.  If you are working with live musicians, the Sampliquioa product should really rock your world but the price of admission really separates the men from the boys.  (I'm in the adolescent class since I only have Samplitude Pro X.)
2013/05/28 11:40:14
brconflict
From what I recall, in my own research, limited as it may be, this is not unlike DiscWelder, which was developed by a Minnetoka group in MN. DiscWelder was one of the "Pro" editions to author and encode DVD-Audio, which unfortunately has not caught on as I'd hoped. It didn't keep up with the competition, but companies who invest in their products get better work and better support. Sequoia falls into this category as well, IMO. 

There's also functionality that is likely built-in to Sequoia that is centric to specific needs of a Major-label studio, such as certain types of encoding, maybe DDP, or DTS, for example, which Cakewalk doesn't have. This is analogous to Photoshop vs. Photoshop Elements from Adobe. Photoshop offers the ability to "soft-proof" for color accuracy when going to print on an exact paper, with an exact print color gamut, and for a specific printer. If your monitor is calibrated, then you can essentially, and quite accurately mimic the paper print on the screen before wasting paper and ink. This also benefits shops that have multiple computers, all of which can handle the same calibration. 

Sequoia also, likely has a more elite market that will only pay for the best. That's not a good marketing ploy, but it works. In this case, they price it high enough to cover the expense of extra work, but the sales volume is low enough that they can give attention to individual users, especially those in major studios. 

My result is that Sequoia is for the expert. If you're charging full studio pricing for your work, and have the clients that need this level of expertise, stability, and support, then it may be worth the cost. For most of us, it's not really worth it. 

FootNote: I wouldn't buy Cakewalk that costs $3,200, but I certainly would pay $799 for a more heavily power and flex-tested version with a long list of "qualified" hardware and Windows OS versions, then routine updates vs. a,b,c,d "Service Packs".
2013/05/28 20:33:54
Dude Ivey
I appreciate everyones input. This was just a question out of curiosty. As i stated before, I love X-2 and it does everything i'll ever need it to do. I was just kinda blown away at the price tag of Sequoia when X-2 offers so much at a fraction of the cost. I have to assume at this point that ill always be with cakewalk. Didnt mean to bring up another DAW, i was just curious and everytime i wanna know something i ask this forum. LOL!
2013/05/28 21:16:53
trimph1
rabeach



written in assembly language

wow!

I've tried mucking around doing a vst using assembly language...not fun!! lol!
2013/05/29 09:19:47
brconflict
Man, I love those tall faders in Sequoia!! NICE!! I also like the Plug-Ins section on each channel. 
2013/05/29 12:03:26
stevec
Man, I love those tall faders in Sequoia!! NICE!! I also like the Plug-Ins section on each channel

 
Hey. I like the whole thing!   I don't dislike X2's CV, but it's certainly not my favorite part of the app.   Sequoia's version looks very well laid out and functional.   IOW, to me it looks like a $3200 CV... perhaps the best I've seen. 
2013/05/29 12:41:09
Dave Modisette
I just noticed that the top bar says Samplitude Pro X on the screen capture of the Sequoia mixer view.

I own Samplitude Pro X and it looks more like this...



Any of the horizontal sections can be expanded or collapsed.  The mixer view is the best in the business, IMHO.
2013/05/29 13:01:33
Sandmännchen
Hi Dave,

it is the Dark Blue Mixer for Sequoia and Samplitude from Birdline Skins
http://skins.birdline.gr/screenshots/screenshots_dark_blue_v12.html

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