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2013/05/29 16:41:55
Danny Danzi
Mod Bod


I just noticed that the top bar says Samplitude Pro X on the screen capture of the Sequoia mixer view.

I own Samplitude Pro X and it looks more like this...



Any of the horizontal sections can be expanded or collapsed.  The mixer view is the best in the business, IMHO.

Sequoia is the same as that, Dave. I'm not running a project or anything, but it's definitely pretty cool to see everything like this. I really dig the layout.
 

 
I'm still in love with this though and can't believe this is Reaper!
 

 
If Sonar gets that send/console view thing to where we don't have the wasted space, I think that will be quite awesome. Remember Sonar 5? One thing about that for me was, you could see everything on one screen and the space was not wasted. If it WAS wasted, we had options to where you could control everything you wanted to see.
 
I still think Sonar has the "look" of a serious and intimidating DAW in a good way. We just have to have colors, options and less wasted space. What's cool about Sequoia and Reaper is...one button push and the mixer totally changes. Not just colors...but everything.
 
What can I say....I like my DAWs like I like my women....attractive and intelligent. :) That said, "attractive" doesn't mean a trophy woman or DAW....just one that *I* think is attractive. :)
 
I think this has been a pretty cool discussion and hope the Bakers are reading this without being offended. The majority of us wouldn't be here posting if we didn't care about Sonar. We'd all love to see it be the best DAW it can be. That doesn't mean we need to "cop" the others...we just need to observe some of the things that are going on and implement them our way the same way we learn a guitar lick. You learn the lick...then you expand on it until it becomes your own. It may never totally be yours....but hey, there's nothing wrong with "inspired by" as you know quite a few DAW companies have borrowed from us...we have borrowed from them....to me, you implement what works in your own way and deliver the goods. :)
 
-Danny
2013/05/29 16:53:39
Danny Danzi
I still do have to give this a nod though....with a little space clean up and the right TLC from the Bakers...we'll be in good shape. :)



-Danny
2013/05/29 17:23:40
John
Looks do matter I will concede that. After all if one is working with something it can't hurt that it is a pleasant experience.

Each of these examples offer something that the bakers at CW could grab the best attributes from and incorporate them into a new and more functional and user friendly CV. The basic way that the CV works is superb and needs no reworking. What is needed is a much better way for that basic functionality to be presented.  

I would love a new CV based on vector graphics and not on bitmaps. This would allow for easy resizing without loosing detail. 

To have the ability to display all likely sends used in a project.

I am not all that sure about color but with the old 8.5 CV because the user had total control over its color that issue was nonresistant.  

I don't think many would say they are unable to get a great song using the X2 CV. But some things could be quicker and less confining. And it has to be said that a beautiful looking CV might add to one's inspiration and willingness to work on.

 

2013/05/29 17:45:17
Dave Modisette
I'm still in love with this though and can't believe this is Reaper!  



I've done a project or two in Reaper and some of the user contributed skins are absolutely awesome.  Once again, in Reaper the Console displays as much or as little info as you need.  There are things that have to be monitored in real time and you need to see them.  Other things only need to be seen if you need to tweak them and they come up in a window with a right mouse click.

I use my sends to produce custom mixes for headphones.  I like to be able to see what the levels are set at for at least 5 sends.  Send panning is usually done later and not when I am in "stress mode" while tracking.  A well designed console view is ideal for tracking, IMHO.
2013/05/29 17:47:20
Dave Modisette
I would love a new CV based on vector graphics and not on bitmaps. This would allow for easy resizing without loosing detail. 
Yep, Samplitude scales to your window size.  Cakewalk needs to get on the ball with that.  Then again, that might be in conflict with this touch screen mentality that they seem to be fascinated with at this time.
2013/05/29 17:51:06
John
Mod Bod



I would love a new CV based on vector graphics and not on bitmaps. This would allow for easy resizing without loosing detail. 
Yep, Samplitude scales to your window size.  Cakewalk needs to get on the ball with that.  Then again, that might be in conflict with this touch screen mentality that they seem to be fascinated with at this time.


True if they want to throw up their hands. However on tablets this is a common feature. 



BTW Dave it is great to see you back here where you belong. 
2013/05/29 18:16:35
Dave Modisette
BTW Dave it is great to see you back here where you belong. 
I continue to lurk to see if CW is doing anything exciting.  Haha, not so much.  I'm still around but I don't answer the "low hanging fruit" questions like I used to.  I figure there's enough users in here to do that and drive up their post count.  
2013/05/29 21:07:29
thunderkyss
I still like the minimilist look





Of course, if you're doing everything in the box, I can understand needing to see more. 

I still like the big consoles though. Probably never own an SSL, but there are some sweet digital consoles out there now. Presonus makes a few..... would be nice if you could store your mix in the DAW (in this case capture) & it would play back all your fader movement & effects automation through the mixer. 

I mentioned before, I've pretty much forsaken computer DAWs in favor of my trusty old AW4416, which hasn't been so trusty lately. But that's what I want. A better AW4416. Well, the Roland machines were great, the VS2480 with it's video output, but still slow & puny compared to today's computers. 
2013/05/29 22:00:26
John
"would be nice if you could store your mix in the DAW (in this case capture) & it would play back all your fader movement & effects automation through the mixer." 


Ah, that is what I do all the time with automation. I use an MC to do the automation. Most digital mixers can do this.  

2013/05/29 22:01:55
Dave Modisette
Sandmännchen


Hi Dave,

it is the Dark Blue Mixer for Sequoia and Samplitude from Birdline Skins
http://skins.birdline.gr/screenshots/screenshots_dark_blue_v12.html

Thanks.  I've been trying to ignore the skins for Samplitude.  I got hooked on the skins for Reaper and I spent more time diddling with how it looked than using it.  


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