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2013/05/30 02:38:17
Danny Danzi
Mike: Yeah, Panup made that for me based on my 8.5 Sonar look and I use what you saw in X1. I've not been as fortunate in X2 with that mod though. When using his new Duckbar, the theme he made for me doesn't translate quite the same even though he tweaked it for X2. I just never mentioned it to him because he's done so much for me. Watch he'll read this and yell at me for not telling hime about it. LOL!

John: totally with you. I'm a spoiled little brat...lol...I want my colors, my completely visible console, sends visible, a few different console looks...and all of this visible without scrolling. I've learned to work with and accept the choices they made....I just think it would be nice to have other options within. The program works well and doesn't crash...that's 95% of the battle for me. Though it's a bit weird sometimes, it still doesn't crash on me thank God. So all in all, that's a good thing and more important than the comestic/image type things I'd like to see brought back. I still hate that audio engine though. LOL! :)

-Danny
2013/05/30 03:33:00
Kalle Rantaaho
Danny Danzi

 
I don't mean to sound like I want "old options". I just want OPTIONS and would like to congratulate the brainiac who thought it was a good idea to rip out the colors and incredible tool bar options we had in Sonar for many years. What a horrible decision. I bet he's either no longer with the company and doesn't use Sonar as often as I do. LOL! :) Ah I'm just being crabby....but it still was a bad move! :-Þ (watch knowing my luck, he's still with the company and will come on here and yell at me. lol) 
  
I don't ask anymore...I just do my work and try not to vent other than 3-4 times per year. When i vent it's because I'm passionate about the software and just wonder how many of these dev guys literally work with the software...not on it. Or, do they make changes for themselves because they can and shoot us the finger sliently? It really does make me wonder at times because some of the decisions that get made really surprise me. Here's hoping for a better Sonar. :)
 
-Danny
I repeat what I said about OS's in another thread:
The software developers sometimes forget, that computers have been around for so long, that radically new things don't pop up
every week, like 20 years ago. There's a mass of users who just want to get their work done approximately in the fluent way they've used to. They have no need nor will to stand in the frontline of development and spend their valuable time learning the same things over and over again. The technical progress, faster CPUs, SSDs etc. makes them happy enough.
 
Development is important, of course, but the changes in software design should be implemented so that workhorse-customers don't need to turn into computer nerds every time a software engineer comes up with a new idea.
2013/05/30 09:50:56
Dave Modisette
I still like the big consoles though. Probably never own an SSL, but there are some sweet digital consoles out there now. Presonus makes a few..... would be nice if you could store your mix in the DAW (in this case capture) & it would play back all your fader movement & effects automation through the mixer. 
I don't have a big console but I have my Mackie Controller and it's 24 channels of faders.  And once again, Samplitude has the best Mackie support of the three software packages that I use.





Some may ask why don't I shut up and use Reaper and Samplitude?  Well, SONAR has them beat when it comes to a midi implementation that I like.  I've had it explained to me that Cakewalk came from a midi sequencer and tagged audio onto it and Samplitude came from a pure audio package and now is in catch up mode when it comes to midi implementation.  Reaper is a very strong program but it sometimes feels like it was designed by a world-wide committee. 
2013/05/30 10:01:27
Jim Roseberry
Reaper is a very strong program but it sometimes feels like it was designed by a world-wide committee. 



That's not too far from the truth...   
Suggestions from folks migrating from many different applications
You'll see bits similar to Vegas, Samplitude, ProTools, etc.
2013/05/30 10:13:42
Dave Modisette
Jim Roseberry



Reaper is a very strong program but it sometimes feels like it was designed by a world-wide committee. 



That's not too far from the truth...   
Suggestions from folks migrating from many different applications
You'll see bits similar to Vegas, Samplitude, ProTools, etc.

Yeah, if they would leave out the Pro Tools bits, I might be happy.    That (Pro Tools) has to be one of the most convoluted programs of all.  However, I know it's a matter of time before I have to buy that one too. 
2013/05/30 10:55:48
trimph1
I'd like to know what actually occurred that made the bakers get rid of the colour customization in the first place....
2013/05/30 11:22:42
Tom Riggs
@dave it looks like you have pictures of studio monitors hanging on the wall behind your monitors. LOL
2013/05/30 12:07:57
Dave Modisette
Tom Riggs


@dave it looks like you have pictures of studio monitors hanging on the wall behind your monitors. LOL

Ha, I guess it does, doesn't it?  Nah, it's for real JBL 4312s.
2013/05/30 12:13:17
Guitarpima
Maybe the bakers will look at what Panup has done and give us a selection of themes to choose from. If they don't want us to mess about with tweaking colors than give us a selection of themes.

How many of you would like the sends to be moved into the Pro-Cannel?
2013/05/30 17:18:23
aleef
I repeat what I said about OS's in another thread: The software developers sometimes forget, that computers have been around for so long, that radically new things don't pop up every week, like 20 years ago. There's a mass of users who just want to get their work done approximately in the fluent way they've used to. They have no need nor will to stand in the frontline of development and spend their valuable time learning the same things over and over again. The technical progress, faster CPUs, SSDs etc. makes them happy enough.   Development is important, of course, but the changes in software design should be implemented so that workhorse-customers don't need to turn into computer nerds every time a software engineer comes up with a new idea.





well said..




i myself am ashamed of the time and money i have spent, to get a handle on all this DAW stuff. even though i am having a good time with the advances, i was way more prolific and productive when i didn't know or have any of this. Sonar, Pro Tools, Reaper etc. etc. is basic and straight-forward now...only because i had years of fooling with it.  looking back, its been alot of features implemented that were a **** to learn, that have never really worked right, nor updated or revamped. eg. Audiosnap, V-vocal were a complete waste of time. especially if you graduated to the better 3rd party stuff. it just seems to me one LE version after another. Avid has said it is not bringing ANYTHING NEW to the table regarding PT11..they are marketing stability and efficiency. all you are getting for all that money, is what you should have had years ago .. hundreds, to some, thousands of dollars and versions ago...the long metering is about it folks..for all your good bread and loyalty..
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