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  • [Workaround] Hide Midi Velocity bars completely?
2014/04/10 11:57:40
oldsneakers
Does anyone know a way to permanently shut off displaying the vertical velocity bars at the beginning of a note in the PRV? I know how to shut them off via the Note menu, but that is only good for the time you are in the PRV. Leave and come back and so do the velocity bars. Thanks!
2014/04/10 12:35:12
stoutlyric
I've wondered this as well?

If there is not a way a shortcut key might be a good work around.
2014/04/10 17:44:50
Anderton
Assuming I understand you correctly, I think what you need to do is under View, click Show/Hide controller pane. This puts the velocity lines into a strip below the PRV. From there you can drag down on the splitter bar to make the controller pane disappear.
 
If you're talking about the track's inline PRV, under the MIDI tab uncheck "Show Velocity."
 
Please let me know if one of these answers your question.
2014/04/11 07:00:37
oldsneakers
Your first answer is what I was looking for. As you said, making the controller pane visible, the bars are gone from the PRV. If I slide the controller pane all the way down so it disappears, the velocity bars reappear in the PRV. But if I leave just a sliver of it visible, the bars stay out of the PRV. Which works for me. Thanks!
2014/04/11 07:05:52
benjaminfrog
Sonar does not retain turning off the Show Velocity setting in the PRV after you close/relaunch the program. Well, actually, the item is still unchecked, but the velocity lines display again.
 
I've been reporting this to Cakewalk since, if memory serves, X1. My most recent report of this is CWBRN-20156. If you haven't already, please submit your own reports, so they're aware there are more of us who would like to see this fixed.
 
Thanks.
2014/04/11 09:12:19
markyzno
benjaminfrog
Sonar does not retain turning off the Show Velocity setting in the PRV after you close/relaunch the program. Well, actually, the item is still unchecked, but the velocity lines display again.
 
I've been reporting this to Cakewalk since, if memory serves, X1. My most recent report of this is CWBRN-20156. If you haven't already, please submit your own reports, so they're aware there are more of us who would like to see this fixed.
 
Thanks.




This happens to me sometimes. Not on all projects but some....
 
Its very annoying.
2014/04/11 22:48:03
benjaminfrog
Hi, Craig. I see you marked this as "solved". However, this is actually a bug that is, as yet, unresolved. Unchecking Show Velocity in the PRV works for the current session, but as soon as you close/relaunch Sonar the velocity lines display again. I have reported this to Cakewalk and they have submitted it to development, but as of X3e it still hasn't been fixed.
2014/04/13 02:03:54
Anderton
It was marked "solved" because the OP wanted to know how to hide MIDI velocity bars completely. After I suggested minimizing the Velocity pane, he said "...if I leave just a sliver of it visible, the bars stay out of the PRV. Which works for me. Thanks!"
 
"Solved" doesn't mean the bug was fixed, it means he has a solution to his issue. However, given subsequent comments, it seems "Workaround" is more appropriate.
 
 
2014/04/13 04:58:53
jps
benjaminfrog
Sonar does not retain turning off the Show Velocity setting in the PRV after you close/relaunch the program. Well, actually, the item is still unchecked, but the velocity lines display again.
 
I've been reporting this to Cakewalk since, if memory serves, X1. My most recent report of this is CWBRN-20156. If you haven't already, please submit your own reports, so they're aware there are more of us who would like to see this fixed.
 
Thanks.




I`ve also made a report on this some time ago CWBRN-21906 which was submitted to Development .
Here is what I see : http://www.screencast.com/t/ukjKSGW7s4u
Hopefully this is moving up on the "to do list"  at Cakewalk :-))
All the best
Jan
2014/04/13 11:25:57
rbowser
I don't understand why this is some kind of show-stopping problem.  Sonar doesn't retain your Show Velocity setting when you close/relaunch, and that seems like a good default to me.  I can't possibly construe that to be a "bug."

Since the Piano Roll View is the heart of MIDI production, usually you want to see as much MIDI data as possible when working - and Velocity is rather one of the most important things to see.  If, for some reason, you don't want to see Velocities during an editing session, then you can turn them off, but I don't know why you wouldn't want that to be only a temporary condition.  There's a better way to not see Velocities though--

The setting that Sonar Does retain between sessions is Show/Hide controller pane.  Once you always have Velocities (and potentially, every other kind of MIDI data) displayed properly in their own PRV pane, you can always have the unobstructed view of the notes best for editing.  If you don't want to see any Velocities or other data, you just drag that pane area down to focus on the notes.  

That's the way it's been in Cakewalk for many versions, and the defaults work and make total sense.  I haven't seen velocities superimposed on top of notes for years, because my Show/Hide controller pane is set in the best way for editing - and stays that way.  I've never had to deal with, or even think about the Show Velocity option - of Course I want to have my Velocities available!--but I can easily hide them if I temporarily need more screen space for editing notes.

Or did I somehow misunderstand what the issue is supposed to be on this thread--?

Randy B.
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