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2017/05/05 16:39:19
scook
It is also possible to select ANY track or clip envelope regardless of the edit filter setting by holding the SHIFT key, position the mouse over the envelope (the envelope name will appear in a tooltip) and click. This also works for orphan envelopes.
2017/05/05 17:34:19
Anderton
Thanks Steve!
2017/05/06 04:28:11
Mark D.
Anderton
I don't recommend it, but you can call up New from the start screen and when it's time to save, direct saving audio to the Cakewalk Projects / Audio folder. I also don't recommend bundle files not because there's anything wrong with the bundle file per se, but like a zip file, lose one bit due to media degradation...


Good advice. I have a lot of old projects (hundreds, maybe thousands) accumulated over the last 20 years and since many are archived I may only open a bundle once and then not return to it (after I reference it for whatever reason). So even with saving projects normally, I'm buried in bundles. 

I'll elaborate on turning off per-project folders. There was in prior versions a check box that did it globally. What my goal is would be to open that old bundle (from years ago) and have it just open. No need to un-check the little box about creating project folders when prompted. One less step. 

Does such an option exist, globally, so opening a bundle (by double clicking on the bundle in File Explorer when I'm going through archives) just opens it up in one step. Cakewalk Sonar opens, and there it is all laid out (yes, there could be a "missing plugin" message to deal with, that's okay).

If not, a potential upgrade in the future would be nice to allow this. Maybe they just bring back the code that makes that little box appear where it did in prior versions. That along with the other option I miss to right click a clip and create a pan envelope just on that clip (vs. the whole track).


2017/05/06 09:58:58
Soundwise
Anderton
Tip 3: Instant Global Edit Filter Change
 
Don’t forget that Quick Grouping works with the Edit Filter. Ctrl-click on the Edit Filter, and all track Edit Filters will show whatever you choose.

How does it work? I don't see any difference between a normal click and control click.
2017/05/06 16:21:00
Anderton
Soundwise
Anderton
Tip 3: Instant Global Edit Filter Change
 
Don’t forget that Quick Grouping works with the Edit Filter. Ctrl-click on the Edit Filter, and all track Edit Filters will show whatever you choose.

How does it work? I don't see any difference between a normal click and control click.




I'm just using Quick Grouping. For example, if you ctrl+click on the edit filter and choose Volume, all the Edit filters will show the Volume automation.
2017/05/06 16:37:12
Anderton
scook
It is also possible to select ANY track or clip envelope regardless of the edit filter setting by holding the SHIFT key, position the mouse over the envelope (the envelope name will appear in a tooltip) and click. This also works for orphan envelopes.



Are you sure this works if you want to edit envelopes appearing in the Parent track with the Edit Filter in the Notes setting? For me it seems to work only if the Edit Filter is set to Clips.
2017/05/06 16:43:13
Soundwise
Anderton
Soundwise
Anderton
Tip 3: Instant Global Edit Filter Change
 
Don’t forget that Quick Grouping works with the Edit Filter. Ctrl-click on the Edit Filter, and all track Edit Filters will show whatever you choose.

How does it work? I don't see any difference between a normal click and control click.




I'm just using Quick Grouping. For example, if you ctrl+click on the edit filter and choose Volume, all the Edit filters will show the Volume automation.


Hmm. I can only set quick grouped tracks to Clip filter with Ctrl+Click. Selecting anything else on any track in a quick group just changes edit filter for that particular track.
2017/05/06 16:47:36
scook
Anderton
Are you sure this works if you want to edit envelopes appearing in the Parent track with the Edit Filter in the Notes setting? For me it seems to work only if the Edit Filter is set to Clips.

I rarely use the inline PRV and do not recall ever testing this case. I can confirm that SHIFT+hover and SHIFT+Click do not work with the edit filter set to Notes. I am not sure if this is a bug or intended behavior. I cannot think of a reason it should work differently when the edit filter is set to Notes. I am leaning toward bug.
 
Edit: SHIFT+Click worked but SHIFT+hover did not show labels in X2 and X3. Both failed in 2016.04, I do not have any of 2015 installed ATM.
 
Edit2: According to Cakewalk this is by design.
2017/05/07 02:17:23
RedSkyRoad
Hi,
Is it possible to access an automation envelope of a VST's automatable setting WITHOUT having to go find it in the pull-down menu of automatable functions?
 
In Ableton you just click on the know and then the associated automation envelope is ready to be edited...
2017/05/07 03:12:13
Anderton
RedSkyRoad
Hi,
Is it possible to access an automation envelope of a VST's automatable setting WITHOUT having to go find it in the pull-down menu of automatable functions?



UInfortunately there's no function specifically like Live, where the track shows the name of the automation when you move the knob. In SONAR, doing something similar depends on how you did automation. If you did MIDI learn, right-click on the knob and you'll see the controller number. If you used VST automation, as soon as you record any automation, it creates a lane. Subsequent to that if you vary the knob, you'll see the parameter value change in the right-hand side of the lane.
 
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