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2017/05/07 03:36:47
Anderton
Either I'm not understanding correctly or didn't explain something clearly. I know you know what you're doing...
 
Soundwise
Hmm. I can only set quick grouped tracks to Clip filter with Ctrl+Click.

 
 
Yes, that's what I experience as well.
 
Selecting anything else on any track in a quick group just changes edit filter for that particular track.



Could the issue be that a quick group remains grouped only as long as you are holding down ctrl?
2017/05/07 20:18:06
Soundwise
Anderton
Selecting anything else on any track in a quick group just changes edit filter for that particular track.

Could the issue be that a quick group remains grouped only as long as you are holding down ctrl?

I don't think so, but what do I know?    Tracks remain selected all the time. I can upload a screen capture, if needed.
2017/05/08 19:15:32
cboshuizen
scook
It is also possible to select ANY track or clip envelope regardless of the edit filter setting by holding the SHIFT key, position the mouse over the envelope (the envelope name will appear in a tooltip) and click. This also works for orphan envelopes.


OMG you're kidding me, I can't believe that works! This has frustrated me for ever, finally I know how to get rid of them!
2017/05/08 20:54:14
Anderton
cboshuizen
scook
It is also possible to select ANY track or clip envelope regardless of the edit filter setting by holding the SHIFT key, position the mouse over the envelope (the envelope name will appear in a tooltip) and click. This also works for orphan envelopes.


OMG you're kidding me, I can't believe that works! This has frustrated me for ever, finally I know how to get rid of them!



If I ever get abducted by aliens or run over by a truck, my fervent hope is that scook would take over Friday's Tip of the Week 
2017/05/09 00:40:41
ricoskyl
Mark D.
 
...my goal is would be to open that old bundle (from years ago) and have it just open. No need to un-check the little box about creating project folders when prompted. One less step. 




I might be missing a subtle issue here, but based on the way Windows associates applications with file names, I can simply double click sand the bundle (.cwb) opens in SPLAT.  Yes, I have to accept the unbundle prompt, but that isn't much of a hassle.
 
If there is a mod you can do, it would probably involve editing the INI file.  That's beyond my knowledge, but i bet someone like SCOOK could lay it out in a flash.
 
Btw, this forum is an awesome resource for such questions, but the best way to get a response is to post a new (separate) thread with the point of your post in the subject line.
2017/05/12 07:58:03
Anderton
Week 145: End Boring MIDI Drum Patterns!
 
Personally I think this is one of my coolest tips ever, but you can be the judge of that. Here’s the scenario.
 
You have a 2-bar MIDI drum loop that you roll out for 16 bars, so it’s the same two bars over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. No wonder people fall asleep listening to your music.
 
You could go in and tweak notes around to try and make things different, while burning up a lot of time in the process. But hey—we have computers! How about letting Mr. SONAR do the work for us?
 
I’ve often said MIDI FX are one of the most underused and least appreciated areas of SONAR, but they can do a lot. We’re going to use them to banish boring MIDI drum patterns forever by introducing musically useful variations.
 
1. Insert a Quantize MIDI FX into your MIDI drum pattern track. We’ll call this Q1.
2. Insert a second Quantize MIDI FX into your MIDI drum pattern track. We’ll call this one Q2. It’s very important that this one follow Q1.
3. Set up Q2 for the desired quantization—for now, let’s say 16th notes with full Strength and no Swing. In other words, plain vanilla boring quantization.
4. Q1 is the fun plug-in because we’ll have it randomize the start times. Normally this would produce all kinds of crazy and probably useless patterns, but having quantization afterward tames the randomness and can convert the craziness into non-repetitive, syncopated, and very cool drum parts.
 

 
Here are some tips on how to set Q1’s parameters. Make no mistake based on not playing around with this enough: you can create subtle, very natural variations if you want...or you can make it sound like the drum kit is falling down several flights of stairs.
 
Resolution: This should be equal to, or coarser than, Q2’s resolution. The coarser the resolution, the greater the variation. (If Q1’s resolution is finer than Q2’s, nothing significant will happen because any changes will be undone by Q2.) When starting out, I recommend resolution equal to Q2, or perhaps a little coarser—e.g., if Q2’s resolution is 1/16, use 1/16, 1/8 triplet, or 1/8 for Q1.
 
Random: First, make sure Q1’s random function is enabled. The more randomness, the more…randomness. If the Q1 and Q2 resolutions are the same, anything below 50% won’t make a difference because Q2 will undo any changes. If you want some occasional, mild changes, even 51% or 52% can produce useful variations where it sounds like the drummer is throwing in a few offbeats. If Q1’s resolution is coarser than Q2’s, then Random percentages below 50% will make a difference. The Random parameter value is crucial, so play with it to get a feel for what’s happening.
 
Strength: This doesn’t really seem to make a difference, or if it does, it’s swamped by the Resolution and Random settings.
 
Note that when you make a change in Q1, you’ll need to stop and start the transport before the change takes effect. However if you’re looping the drum pattern, then it will “reset” when it goes back to the beginning so there’s no need to start/stop.
 
Also note that Q1 really is random. In order to avoid “the big one that got away” syndrome, you might want to Process > Apply Effect > MIDI Effects and listen to determine if Mr. SONAR has created a truly fabulous drum groove. Don’t worry about unchecking the box about deleting the MIDI FX; if you don’t like what you hear, Undo is your friend and you can try again.
 
But wait - there's more! Q2 doesn't just have to sit there and bring weirdness back into reality. Don’t forget that you can further embellish the quantization effect with Q2's processing—add swing, randomize some more, etc.
 
 
2017/05/12 13:22:53
tagruvto
Hey Craig
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but this Really works!
I took a very boring pattern with just kick, snare and hi hat.
Plugged in your settings and... Magic 
The part has suddenly blossomed with added nuance and character.
Very, very Cool
 
PS - I recommend bypassing the second quantizer (just for a moment) to A:B how it holds everything together.
Thanks!
2017/05/12 22:33:58
Soundwise
Great tip, as always! Lots of fun. Just tried it with piano. Amazing!
2017/05/13 00:34:22
yummay
Seems wayyyy too cool!
2017/05/13 11:25:51
JoeHans
Wow! This one is really golden. Thanks Craig!
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