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  • Friday's Tip of the Week #167: Behold! Dual Mono Becomes Stereo! (p.33)
2017/05/15 21:35:13
kennywtelejazz
WOW Craig , this tip works Great for Drums in the Fusion Musical Genre .
Did a little experiment over here,
I took the stiffest Session Drummer W Boys can't dance beat  I could find and started there by rolling out a 4 bar Session Drummer Midi to 16 bars .. ( Metal_ Verse_ 04 ...Slate Zep wet set )
Dialed up 2 instances Q 1 & Q2  as per your suggestions  ..
Played around a little bit to see where I can take the Groove ..set them Q's 1 & 2  to my taste ...
Then I said to my self , hey wait a second here , lets take the same beats ( Metal_ Verse_ 04 ...Slate Zep wet set ) , and use them in a 3 rd party ethnic kit together w the Session Drummer 3 kit .
This way I could compare the feel of the grooves of both kits in real time .
On that experiment Session Drummer had Q1 & Q2 to engaged while my Ethnic kit didn't.
It was nice to be able to compare the results in real time within my SONAR project ...
After hearing what this tip could do I set the Ethnic Kit up w a Q1 and Q2 of it's own modified settings that blended well with the  Session Drummer kit ...
Next I took a Middle Eastern Tabla type of sound from another ethnic VST percussion plug ( Darbuka Nut ) inserted a looped midi fie and set that one using Darbuka Nut to float over the top of the other 2 Kits ...
The results actually shocked me in a good way ...
 
The reasons for that are probably a few fold ...
The amount of shifts were so subtle yet the perceptible combined impact was not subtle at all ...
 
The modified groove was swinging ...the actual results that I had gotten sort of reminded me of how the SONAR Pro Channel console emulations works,  yet applying that concept  to giving static beats a new lease on life  ...
A small bit here and a small bit there accumulates to create a synergistic relationship within the parts .
 
full disclosure , since using the Quantize  plug this way was totally new to me I had opted for setting up my drum kits VIA a stereo output per kit ...not a  multi out put set up ...i did it that way to keep it easy on myself so I could learn a new thing ...
 
Thanks for declassifying this tip ...it is a real nice one 
 
Kenny
2017/05/15 21:52:52
KPerry
Presumably something similar with the Velocity plug-in (sans quantisation, of course) would help too...
2017/05/17 15:31:10
Anderton
KPerry
Presumably something similar with the Velocity plug-in (sans quantisation, of course) would help too...



Yes and no...dynamics variations can be helpful, but really good drummers have good dynamics control so randomness can sound more like the drummer isn't that great. The reason why this tip works so well is because of the second Quantize FX, which prevents the randomness from getting out of control.
2017/05/19 16:40:18
Anderton
Week 146: The Perfect Fadeout
 
When you want to fade out a song using automation on the master bus, you can either take the time to place nodes exactly where you want them...or you can save much time using this tip for obtaining the Perfect Fadeout. I've been using this technique on all songs requiring a fade for the last couple months, and it works every time. As in, every time! Here's the step-by-step.
 
  1. Open the volume automation envelope on your master bus.
  2. Add a node where you want the song to start fading.
  3. Add another node where you want the song to have faded out, and drag this node down to zero volume.
  4. Add a third node equidistant between the fadeout start and end nodes.
  5. Right-click on the envelope between the fadeout start and midpoint, and then choose Slow Curve.
  6. Right-click on the envelope between the midpoint and fadeout end, and then choose Fast Curve.
 

 
Done! Of course you may want to do weird fadeouts sometime, but when you just want a song to fade out smoothly and in a subjectively pleasing way, I'm pretty sure this will do it for you. 
2017/05/19 16:46:00
ampfixer
An everyday useful tip. I love it and will experiment with this later today. I assume that the same technique could be used mid project to bring down an instrument and then bring it back in. I'll find out.
2017/05/19 16:56:43
Zargg
Nice, simple tip 
Have used this myself in the past, and it works a treat.
All the best.
2017/05/19 17:09:26
Anderton
ampfixer
An everyday useful tip. I love it and will experiment with this later today. I assume that the same technique could be used mid project to bring down an instrument and then bring it back in. I'll find out.



Yes, I've done this with sustained organ notes and such. It seems the ear's response to level matches this kind of volume curve well.
2017/05/19 17:10:51
Billy86
Nice tip!
2017/05/19 18:15:54
southpaw3473
Thanks again for a great tip, Craig!!
2017/05/19 19:36:48
cboshuizen
Anderton
Week 136: Sonitus Presets - Yes, We Can!
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Because the Sonitus effects are wonderful. 
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These plug-ins may be from 2003, but Ultrafunk—the Norwegian company that created them—got it right. Ignore these plug-ins at your own peril.

I would love to see a UI update for these plug ins in a future release. If they looked better and were a bit easier to read, they would probably be more popular. I'm sure most people find the Windows NT looking interfaces a turnoff. 
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