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2017/07/29 01:01:41
Brando
Hi Craig. Nice. That's a handy table that will be very useful. Thank you. BTW have not had a chance to try out the big reverb tip from last week. Will though. Thanks!!
2017/07/29 11:06:05
JohnEgan
"SONARians" LOL, what about the SONARites?
I've never really found using "punch" that useful to me, I guess for the way I record (myself), seems to me like somewhat of a remnant from the tape era, to conserve or limit splicing real tape? But apparently there's a number of options and scenarios to use it.  Usually I would just loop/comp record around the section I need to add/redo leaving an extra bar or 2 or more before and after 'punch" area needed and just create new tracks to cut and paste in. Perhaps from these options i may find a reason to retry using "punch".
 
 
Thanks & Cheers 
2017/07/29 15:30:40
Anderton
What I like about punching is the immediacy, especially when songwriting..."Hmm, I want to re-record that phrase. Select track, specify punch area, record, done." If it doesn't work, I just undo and try again.
 
When I'm writing I use a lot of "placeholder" parts, and while I don't expect them always to be the final versions, I do want them to sound decent. Also when I'm writing lyrics, I'll often replace a phrase here and there. There's no need to get involved in comping when a simple punch will do.
 
Comping is wonderful for sure, but I use it more with longer parts where I'm going to be making decisions as to which parts are better so they can be combined into a single take. Punching is great for replacing smaller sections - fast and efficient. When songwriting, I almost never comp. I attribute at least part of the speed with which I'm writing songs these days to punching.
2017/07/29 20:15:33
JohnEgan
Anderton
I attribute at least part of the speed with which I'm writing songs these days to punching.

That probably explains why I take so long, LOL. I'd comp/record a lot of phrases, possibly changing,adding or removing words, and/or accents, expressions, etc., and later reorder within or between verses, problem with so many is procrastinating later which to use. LOL. (somewhat more so with guitar solos). Your method prevents this and hoarding a lot unused tracks.
I think I may have track hoarding issues?, LOL.
 
Cheers 
2017/07/29 20:32:39
pentimentosound
Hi  my name is Michael and I'm a track hoarder, too..........  LOL
I tend to do another track and edit my way to happiness. I have used punch some, coming from the "tape planet", but will certainly consider doing more of it. Thanks for the chart. I can "retain" that.
 
Michael
2017/07/29 22:11:17
JohnEgan
pentimentosound
Hi  my name is Michael and I'm a track hoarder, too..........  LOL
 

 The first step is admitting it, LOL
Cheers
2017/07/29 22:26:09
pentimentosound

2017/07/31 09:17:26
KPerry
Is it just me or does the need for a table like that suggest that the options and workflows need simplifying?
2017/07/31 11:37:56
Brando
No it's not just you. I would love to see more streamlining, as well as context sensitive or self-evident choices for things like this. As a devil's advocate, and to use a car analogy, I view this as more akin to the circuit breaker panel guide under your car's hood that tells you what amperage ratings the various breakers are in your car. As opposed to something more universal/standardized like the controls for your cruise control. Within SONAR I equate it more to the shortcut keys - a function of the power of the DAW, and require some homework to learn (or not if you never use the feature).
But yeah.
2017/07/31 13:50:29
JohnEgan
I guess choices may vary with personal workflow, whether a voice or instrument, and if recording yourself alone, or someone else and in full control of DAW.
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