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2015/02/21 19:09:09
sharke
SonicFan
I would even feel very profound emotions from songs that many other people could not feel or relate to when I was a young child as well.  I feel these emotions even to this day.


That's some grade-A hubris right there.
2015/02/21 19:45:33
SonicFan
sharke
SonicFan
I would even feel very profound emotions from songs that many other people could not feel or relate to when I was a young child as well.  I feel these emotions even to this day.


That's some grade-A hubris right there.



How is that being a self-centered person?  Everyone has their own personal musical interpretations and feelings.  Not everyone who has feelings and interpretations unique to them are selfish people.
2015/02/21 20:03:51
jbow
Well, I'm not going to read all that but I did scan the last paragraph, no offense.
 
So, I may misunderstand the question BUT... as far as my music I am WIDE open to help with arrangement, with ideas. I may or may not use them but I am easily influenced because I am actually looking for input and help. IMO, there are few people who can write and record everything alone and produce their best work. Not everyone is a Beethoven... I look at Lennon/McCartney and see a LOT of synergy.
If someone who gives you an idea to improve a song and it hurts their feelings if you disagree then they have a problem not you... unless you dismiss other's ideas out of hand or really aren't open to them.
Perhaps I missed the point... pardon me if I did.
 
It's your thing... do what you wanna do.. I can't tell you who to sock it to.
 
Julien
 
2015/02/21 22:39:42
yorolpal
Listen SonicFan, Ol pal...self absorption can be a wonderful thing. I know...I'm eat up with it. But, for the most part, and especially when you have deal with other people, it gets to be a real drag and a deterrent to reasonable and rational discourse. And, perhaps sadly...but really, who knows...no one else gives a rat's ass what you think, feel or have devined through mystical or empirical means. Unless you are a bona fide celebrity, so called expert or just someone who's on TV or the interweb. And even then, not much. And you, at least it appears, are not a member of any of those elite groups. Tough titty. Take an aspirin and don't call any of us in the morning. Go on with your bad self. But learn to use your "inside" words when pondering. I promise that's damn good advice.
2015/02/21 22:46:17
SonicFan
yorolpal
Listen SonicFan, Ol pal...self absorption can be a wonderful thing. I know...I'm eat up with it. But, for the most part, and especially when you have deal with other people, it gets to be a real drag and a deterrent to reasonable and rational discourse. And, perhaps sadly...but really, who knows...no one else gives a rat's ass what you think, feel or have devined through mystical or empirical means. Unless you are a bona fide celebrity, so called expert or just someone who's on TV or the interweb. And even then, not much. And you, at least it appears, are not a member of any of those elite groups. Tough titty. Take an aspirin and don't call any of us in the morning. Go on with your bad self. But learn to use your "inside" words when pondering. I promise that's damn good advice.



I understand, but music should stand as a separate entity on its own from the composer.  In other words, just because you are someone not famous or not respected does not mean that your compositions should receive the same treatment.  Works of art and music stand alone as separate entities in of themselves.  As long as they really are something great and convey great emotions, then it shouldn't matter whether the person who made those works of art is someone selfish or not.  The work of art still stands alone in of itself as being great and no amount of horrible personality traits this person has can ever demean that work of art.
2015/02/21 22:54:38
yorolpal
Yea...and Van Gogh died a pauper. Which, if I had anything to say about it, he should have. There are countless examples of talentless numbskulls who've achieved fame and fortune and honestly talented artists of all stripes who have achieved virtually nothing. Again, tough titty. Them's the breaks. Roll with the punches. Don't sweat it. Don't forget about what I said about your inside voice.
2015/02/21 22:59:43
SonicFan
yorolpal
Yea...and Van Gogh died a pauper. Which, if I had anything to say about it, he should have. There are countless examples of talentless numbskulls who've achieved fame and fortune and honestly talented artists of all stripes who have achieved virtually nothing. Again, tough titty. Them's the breaks. Roll with the punches. Don't sweat it. Don't forget about what I said about your inside voice.



There would be absolutely no way I would ever want to share my works with such an audience then who only deems works of art as great if the person is someone famous and such.  I would only share my works of art to people who truly see them for what they are.  They would be people who have profound perceptions like me.
2015/02/21 23:09:14
Rain
I write the music I want to hear. That's it.
 
I try to be honest with myself, so that I can appreciate what I've done but point out what could be better and move on from there. It's not about me, it's about music.
 
Songs I've completed at the very least captured a moment in time, so sometime, I dig one up and re-visit that moment. It has a "historical value" to me, and I try to figure out why and how it works.
 
 
When I'm not inspired, I write pastiches and studies, to extend my vocabulary and to be able to raise my own standards if I have to write on command.
 
When even that doesn't work, I try to learn how to mix better.
 
When that doesn't work, I pick up my Logic Certification book and study my DAW of choice. Or get familiar with Pro Tools.
 
If I'm too tired, I put on a movie and practice scales, or try to come up with new warm ups on the guitar. Or I just play the blues. 
 
I can work on a two notes phrase for hours. Or a single string bend.

Or if I really want to change my mind, I go downstairs and clean up the house, listening to Mozart.
 
I've not found enough time to really work on my voice as much as I want. I also want to learn to play piano better. Drums would also be cool. And mastering.
 
If I need a real break, I pick up a case of beer, sit in my studio and listen to music...
 
The only thing I've never questioned in my life is music. 
 
2015/02/21 23:34:31
sharke
SonicFan you sound like a gynecologist talking about sex.  
2015/02/22 00:44:20
Godling
Pavlov's dog is as likely, as any reasoned response, to be responsible for ones perception or interpretation of music. We like what we like, simply because we like it. Primitive and reductive, but all that matters really... imo.
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