• SONAR
  • Big announcements coming June 1st, 2016 (p.91)
2016/05/25 09:36:50
bapu
Rocsee70
Karyn
They still haven't said who's lifetime they are referring to...



Well, even if it's your own lifetime, they are not lying. They are not making any claims about how many and for how long they will keep making updates. When they stop making updates, still "you will receive every new core feature, enhancement, and even fixes for all future versions of SONAR". 


But what if it's Tuesday and we are in Belgium? Will I still get fixes to notation?
2016/05/25 09:43:58
Karyn
Rocsee70
bapu
your current membership (sheesh.... how many times must it be said, CW does have NOT a subscription plan)



Just out of curiosity. How do you see a difference between a membership and a subscription ? I know how SPlat works, and just thinks you can call it either.
 
Also out of curiosity and totally off-topic: what is this 'bakers' reference that I see popping up now and again ?


In the world of magazines and newspapers, when you cancel you subscription you get to keep the physical copies you already have but get no more.
In the world of software, when you cancel your subscription the software stops working.
In the world of Cakewalk, if you cancel your membership you stop getting updates but as long as you've made 12 consecutive part payments, you own the software and it will always work.
 
Cakewalk programmers = Bakers...   Cake -> Baker....
2016/05/25 09:44:54
bapu
Rocsee70
bapu
your current membership (sheesh.... how many times must it be said, CW does have NOT a subscription plan)



A) Just out of curiosity. How do you see a difference between a membership and a subscription ? I know how SPlat works, and just thinks you can call it either.
 
B) Also out of curiosity and totally off-topic: what is this 'bakers' reference that I see popping up now and again ?


A) Because the bakers call it a membership, NOT a subscription. Simples.
In all other software models that are called subscription when you stop paying you do not get continued use of the software. Pay for twelve months and that version of SONAR is yours to use. Pay for less than 12 monthly payments and you've effectively stopped your annual membership 'early' and have elected to no longer keep the software at all. It's still a membership either way because the bakers say it is.
A1) Just because you choose to say atmosphere does not mean everyone will interpret that to mean the sky, but hey....
B) Bakers make cakes, no?
2016/05/25 09:47:32
Karyn
Bakers make bread, so why do they keep asking for mine?
 
2016/05/25 10:48:15
Morvejones
Rocsee70
Morvejones
One thing i am confused about is how is my price £176.14? ($199 = £136 + 20% vat = £163.20) minus 5 months ive paid already £11.89 x5 = £59.45 , (£163.20 - £59.45 = £103.75) Shouldn't £103.75 be the price? 



What makes you think you should be able to deduct the 5 months you already paid ?! There has not been a single mention about being able to do that. Wouldn't make that much sense either since almost everyone will already have paid until some date in the future and so you expect everyone would still get some discount on an already discounted price.
Pricing is really very simple:
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum + you have renewed for 1 year Platinum : your lifetime offer is $99 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum, but no renewal yet : your lifetime offer is $199 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).


Because if you read the email the price is $199 for lifetime updates minus what you have already paid , thats why people get it for $99 right? As they have already renewed for the year.i have paid for 1 year of platinum plus I renewed paying monthly so instead of paying up front i have made 5 months payments so shouldnt i have them deducted? understand? 
2016/05/25 11:33:36
SilkTone
Morvejones
Rocsee70
Morvejones
One thing i am confused about is how is my price £176.14? ($199 = £136 + 20% vat = £163.20) minus 5 months ive paid already £11.89 x5 = £59.45 , (£163.20 - £59.45 = £103.75) Shouldn't £103.75 be the price? 



What makes you think you should be able to deduct the 5 months you already paid ?! There has not been a single mention about being able to do that. Wouldn't make that much sense either since almost everyone will already have paid until some date in the future and so you expect everyone would still get some discount on an already discounted price.
Pricing is really very simple:
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum + you have renewed for 1 year Platinum : your lifetime offer is $99 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum, but no renewal yet : your lifetime offer is $199 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).


Because if you read the email the price is $199 for lifetime updates minus what you have already paid , thats why people get it for $99 right? As they have already renewed for the year.i have paid for 1 year of platinum plus I renewed paying monthly so instead of paying up front i have made 5 months payments so shouldnt i have them deducted? understand? 



If I understand correctly, you started paying month-to-month in Jan, right? So you paid for time that has already passed, with at the most 1 month in advance. On the other hand, if you paid for a year's worth of membership earlier this year, you paid for quite some time into the future. For example if you paid for a year's worth of membership in Jan, you still have more than 6 months left.
 
So I think that is the difference.
2016/05/25 12:12:42
MarioD
Karyn
Bakers make bread, so why do they keep asking for mine?
 




Because bread require dough and you supply that
2016/05/25 12:20:44
Kamikaze
Rocsee70
 
* You have paid for 1 year Platinum + you have renewed for 1 year Platinum : your lifetime offer is $99 (or the EUR or GBP equivalent + VAT).
 




I paid for one year of platinum and renewed for another year in February this year. I've not received the $99 offer, but I have received the email. So I don't think it's that cut and dry.
2016/05/25 12:28:16
Morvejones
SilkTone
 
 
If I understand correctly, you stated paying month-to-month in Jan, right? So you paid for time that has already passed, with at the most 1 month in advance. On the other hand, if you paid for a year's worth of membership earlier this year, you paid for quite some time into the future. For example if you paid for a year's worth of membership in Jan, you still have more than 6 months left.
 
So I think that is the difference.


Ahh ok, kinda sux tho as i was going to pay month to month for the full 12 months again (being a long time sonar user sinse 2xl,i guess most long term users paying monthly would) now they will write all that off and we all get the £176 offer 
 
Hopefully June 1st will shed some more light on it 
2016/05/25 12:31:44
hevanw
Kamikaze
I paid for one year of platinum and renewed for another year in February this year. I've not received the $99 offer, but I have received the email. So I don't think it's that cut and dry.



From what I have seen the reps post here, you should definitely be entitled for the $99 price. So I would drop them a mail or PM.
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