Now this is strange. While on youtube I had trouble streaming video. You might be thinking, what does this have to do with sonar? well good question; because I figured out if I close sonar I have no problem watching video on youtube. If it's open (Sonar) I get errors when viewing videos. And that's a crazy fact!

bitflipper
This is exactly the scenario I've feared since Microsoft first instituted forced updates: a bug that cripples millions of users in one fell swoop.
 
It's happened before, but MS has always jumped on the problem and fixed it in short order. Unfortunately, like the power company fixing downed power lines after a storm, MS must prioritize by first addressing whatever issues affect the greatest number of users. Those of us running specialized applications are like the homeowner on a cul-de-sac who's last to get his power restored.
 
 

Thank you! Well finally someone has given an explanation of what's really going on - forced updates. I wonder if there’s a program we can install that prevent it from happening? I wish others would test this out to see if being disconnected from the internet makes a difference.
 
Last night very late about 2am I disconnected from the internet and reverted to my 10/23 image, I booted my computer and Plat 3x with no runtime error. I reconnected to the internet and today around 11:45am,  I booted my computer and Plat 2x with no runtime error, then on the 3rd and 4th time it came back.
 
 I was really surprised why last weekend, Saturday and Sunday, the same test countless times yielded no runtime errors. I suppose MS is working on the problem and stopped it over the weekend. This is so weird.
 
A Google search shows that MS is actually getting lawsuits over forced updates. I have autoupdates turned off and only update right before a new Plat version install. I have tons of image files saved anytime I make a change.
 
Fortunately in my situation I have image files and when the forced update hits me, my workaround is to not close the runtime error window. Then everything works perfectly. I feel bad for those that have no solution and are out of business over this. This certainly makes the case for saving image files and not just using system restore to save our butts. I’m also glad I’m not required to be online to use Plat, like others having plugins that require this.

EricDeluxe
I just hate the forced update idea. I can understand some part of it, however, it should still be able to choose wether I want to update or not.... Annoying as FXXK! I really don't want to go back to a prevous version of Windows 10, to much hassle

So when did the forced updates start? Do you mean that I could revert back to an image file back then and stay connected to the internet without getting a forced update? I doubt if I'd ever need to do that, but I do like to know all the options in case things go haywire.
 
There are some methods on Google to disable forced updates. If there was a safe way of doing this, I'd be interested.
 

As I noted earlier, I keep my DAW off line. I am using an earlier version of Windows 10. I keep Platinum updated by going through my Linux system and downloading the updates from the Cakewalk My Products page. I have not had any of the issues that I see the others describing. 
 
If I do run into an issue with Platinum I know for certain that it is a Cakewalk issue. It is the only thing that gets updated on the DAW machine. Further, because I am offline, the virus scan is disabled as well as other items that are no longer needed. The machine actually runs a bit better because of that.
 
Is it a pain? It can be. But I have complete control over what gets updated on my machine, and when it gets updated. I can tell you right now it is not as big a pain as others are having trying to figure out if the problem is Cakewalk or Microsoft. 
 
Forced updates are a poison, waiting to attack your system when you can least afford it. Right now Microsoft is forcing that update. What happens when (not if) hackers break into the forced update system and spread malicious code- or even begin bricking systems. Oh what a fun day that will be!

MandolinPicker
I keep Platinum updated by going through my Linux system...
 
Forced updates are a poison, waiting to attack your system when you can least afford it. Right now Microsoft is forcing that update. What happens when (not if) hackers break into the forced update system and spread malicious code- or even begin bricking systems. Oh what a fun day that will be!

These "hackers" will be easy to find since most probably that is going to happened once Reaper for Linux is released

gmp
So when did the forced updates start? Do you mean that I could revert back to an image file back then and stay connected to the internet without getting a forced update? I doubt if I'd ever need to do that, but I do like to know all the options in case things go haywire.
 
There are some methods on Google to disable forced updates. If there was a safe way of doing this, I'd be interested.
 

If restore a drive image and there is an update already downloaded and "warming up in the bullpen", it will apply itself.

There is a turnoff for Windows Update only in Windows 10 Pro. You can, however type in the windows search box on your toolbar Services and that window will open. You scroll down the list of programs to Windows Update. Left click to highlight, then right click for list. Choose Properties and set startup to Manual. That way Windows Update will only be launched when you click on Update & Security in the Settings window. It has worked for me since day one!

MandolinPicker
What happens when (not if) hackers break into the forced update system and spread malicious code- or even begin bricking systems. Oh what a fun day that will be!

We don't have to wait for the Russians to do it, Microsoft will do it first. At the end of the day, what is the difference between malicious code and plain old garden-variety broken code?
 
Some years ago, shortly after updates became automatic but before they were mandatory, MS started slipping in checks to verify that the Windows installation was legit. They classified it as a priority security update, an intentional lie so as to not tip their hand. The ruse worked on me, defeating my practice of selectively applying only those updates that sounded important.
 
On one of my systems, this piece of official malware decided that my installation of MS SQL Server was not "genuine" and blew away all of my databases. (BTW, the installation was in fact 100% legit. I would never jeopardize my livelihood by using warez in my business.) I wiped the system, re-installed Windows and SQL Server, restored my databases and this time MS was inexplicably satisfied.

gustabo

gmp
So when did the forced updates start? Do you mean that I could revert back to an image file back then and stay connected to the internet without getting a forced update? I doubt if I'd ever need to do that, but I do like to know all the options in case things go haywire.
 
There are some methods on Google to disable forced updates. If there was a safe way of doing this, I'd be interested.
 

If restore a drive image and there is an update already downloaded and "warming up in the bullpen", it will apply itself.

It doesn't appear that update will apply itself unless you have an internet connection. All the testing I've done disconnected to the internet, has shown I won't get the runtime error error as long as I stay disconnected. Yet I've only stayed disconnected for 2.5 days max so far. It'll be interesting if anyone reports this problem once disconnected to the internet. I've used Cakewalk products and computers since 1992 and have never seen such a weird situation.

Sidroe
There is a turnoff for Windows Update only in Windows 10 Pro. You can, however type in the windows search box on your toolbar Services and that window will open. You scroll down the list of programs to Windows Update. Left click to highlight, then right click for list. Choose Properties and set startup to Manual. That way Windows Update will only be launched when you click on Update & Security in the Settings window. It has worked for me since day one!

I have mine in Services set to disabled and when I want to update, I turn it back on, doesn't require a reboot. It's great I don't' get those nagging update messages. It may be that manual works the same way. If I choose check for updates, it won't check for updates until I turn on auto updates in Services. I have a shortcut to Services on my desktop, so it’s very quick to toggle it. My reasoning is whenever there’s a new Plat update, it been tested with the current crop of updates, so that’s whty I wait until then to update Win 10.