Hello all,
I'm not at comp right now, but what happens if you uncheck the box 'if checked' , and then go to file, and choose save, will that affect the next time you add a soft synth. Just a thought....... Don't know if this a global command. Like I said, just a thought. I had this thought because after setting up main body of recording features I always file save so I don't have to address issues later. Don't know if this will help
Good luck,
MJ

I agree it is a bug, as this is the behavior I get as well, and I expect it to do what it says it will.  I don't think he should accuse Craig of something before giving him a chance to reply.

coolbass

SilverBlueMedallion
 
 
 
Actually Anderton, it is either a bug or very poor implementation.   Please allow me to show you why I say this.  First, allow me to demonstrate how to re-create the steps to prove the bug/poor implementation.  
 

STEP #1:  
open the "Insert Synth Options" dialog and lets first select "Enable MIDI Output":


 
 

 
STEP #2:
lets insert Dimension Pro.  I am expecting it to have MIDI Output enabled since I left the checkmark in place (see above), and sure enough it does.  EXPECTED BEHAVIOUR! 



 
Now... lets expose that bug/poor implementation...



STEP #3:
open the "Insert Synth Options" dialog and now UN-select "Enable MIDI Output":


 
Now, you would expect the next time I load a synth, MIDI output would NOT be on by default, correct?  

STEP #4:  
insert Dimension Pro, check to see if MIDI out is disabled (as told to do so in the Synth Options in step 3)


 
BUT, as you see... "Enable MIDI Output" is STILL ENABLED!!!!
 
 
Other options in that dialog box work AS EXPECTED (insert track folder, midi source, simple instrument track), but NOT the "Enable MIDI Output" checkbox.   So, that leads me to the conclusion that this is either a BUG (meaning the checkbox is supposed to do something) OR poor implementation if the design is to ALWAYS have it enabled.  That would mean that this option literally does nothing (which I have illustrated just now).

It should be an option so users can set it how THEY SEE FIT.  I never want MIDI output enabled unless I chose so manually, yet Sonar does not allow this, but fools you to think it does by allowing you to uncheck the box (which does nothing).

Now, again, how is this NOT a bug Anderton?

Why the attitude? Maybe it is a little bug? So what.

no attitude.  I am simply responding to Anderton who keeps telling me there is no bug.

musicjohnnie
Hello all,
I'm not at comp right now, but what happens if you uncheck the box 'if checked' , and then go to file, and choose save, will that affect the next time you add a soft synth. Just a thought....... Don't know if this a global command. Like I said, just a thought. I had this thought because after setting up main body of recording features I always file save so I don't have to address issues later. Don't know if this will help
Good luck,
MJ

 
nope. still doesnt work

pwalpwal
sorry if this is no-brainer, but after unchecking the "ask every time" box, how do i get it to ask again the next time? (dragging a synth from the browser, with "midi out" unchecked, and "ask every time" unchecked)
thanks in advance!

hey PWAL, Go in to the Synth Rack and open up a synths properties page, then uncheck the box that says " Don't ask me again". hope this helps man.
 

frankjcc
I agree it is a bug, as this is the behavior I get as well, and I expect it to do what it says it will.

you get what as well ?
Are you saying im supposed to have manually enable MIDI out whenever I  want to use it ?
No thanks. im happy with the way it is.

frankjcc
I agree it is a bug, as this is the behavior I get as well, and I expect it to do what it says it will.  I don't think he should accuse Craig of something before giving him a chance to reply.

well I am simply going on past responses. Craig usually tries to soften problems within the software.  He even replied to me telling me how its not a bug - something about how if they disable it, then a whole other set of users will complain... HUH?  who's talking about disabling it?   Just get the check box to work properly!

chuckebaby

pwalpwal
sorry if this is no-brainer, but after unchecking the "ask every time" box, how do i get it to ask again the next time? (dragging a synth from the browser, with "midi out" unchecked, and "ask every time" unchecked)
thanks in advance!

hey PWAL, Go in to the Synth Rack and open up a synths properties page, then uncheck the box that says " Don't ask me again". hope this helps man.
 

frankjcc
I agree it is a bug, as this is the behavior I get as well, and I expect it to do what it says it will.

you get what as well ?
Are you saying im supposed to have manually enable MIDI out whenever I  want to use it ?
No thanks. im happy with the way it is.

 
How about the checkmark just do its job!  This way we BOTH can be happy Chuckebaby!   Allow users to determine the default "Enable MIDI Output" behavior.  Like the checkmark is SUPPOSED to!

What do you guys that use midi out, use it for? I would like to see some scenarios that might give me insight on why midi out is so useful.

frankjcc
What do you guys that use midi out, use it for? I would like to see some scenarios that might give me insight on why midi out is so useful.

 
sure thing.  there are some synths that are capable of routing MIDI outside of itself.  Some might be able to output its arpeggiator notes into a MIDI track, and then there are utilities like Kirnu Cream, which is an arpeggio VST that you MUST use Enable MIDI out for.   It basically sends its internal sequencer to another VST of your choice. :)  Hope that helps!

thank you SilverBlueMedallion, I see, I remember a chord playing synth that needed midi out like this(too complicated for me, deleted).  for me I think if I use something 99% of the time a specifiec way, it should be default behavior, and 1% that I want to change this, is when I should look into settings and stuff. especially if it's an option.