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  • Is There Anyway To Disable "Enable MIDI Out" When Inserting Softsynths? (p.8)
2017/01/09 12:55:11
gustabo
Just started watching it but you specifically state it's for "Anderton" so I'll leave it for him "lol"
 
2017/01/09 13:09:35
gustabo
Alright, watched your video.
Item 1: Why? Don't know because I'm not a Cakewalk engineer.
Does it bother me? Absolutely not because I use a custom preset that selects omni for my keyboards and no control surfaces.
Item 2: Why? Don't know because I'm not a Cakewalk engineer.
Does it bother me? Absolutely not because I have it ask everytime. Sometimes I want midi out enabled, sometime not. I also don't use Simple Instrument Tracks.
Sorry Dude, if your precious workflow is impaired by this, find another DAW.
Oh yeah "lol"
2017/01/09 13:14:47
AdamGrossmanLG
gustabo
SilverBlueMedallion
 
You NEED Sonar to be right lol  

That's just it, it is right for me "lol"



There must be a real reason you won't watch and respond to my video, I mean your are busy replying to me these stupid nonsense remarks, but won't actually watch the video.

Go ahead watch it... Speak to my two points.
2017/01/09 13:16:29
AdamGrossmanLG
gustabo
Alright, watched your video.
Item 1: Why? Don't know because I'm not a Cakewalk engineer.
Does it bother me? Absolutely not because I use a custom preset that selects omni for my keyboards and no control surfaces.
Item 2: Why? Don't know because I'm not a Cakewalk engineer.
Does it bother me? Absolutely not because I have it ask everytime. Sometimes I want midi out enabled, sometime not. I also don't use Simple Instrument Tracks.
Sorry Dude, if your precious workflow is impaired by this, find another DAW.
Oh yeah "lol"



So you won't speak to my points BC they don't effect you. Got it. Block me here too, please Bob Bergen?
2017/01/09 13:24:48
gustabo
I did speak to your points, just not the answers that you wanted.
I think I got you figured out snowflake.
You are tech phone support (script reader) for the software development company you work for and you get yelled at a lot.
This is your way of venting! "lol"
2017/01/09 13:41:14
Bristol_Jonesey
SilverBlueMedallion
Genghis
FWIW I've watched your video.  It looks like if you would just disable input monitoring on your MIDI tracks unless you are actually using it you'd have things under control and your point would be moot, but then again I'm not the MIDI power user here.  At least on my system it only seems to work as Omni when you have input monitoring on, which kind of makes sense.  I mean, why would you turn on input monitoring and expect it to monitor nothing?




but then I can't switch track to track seamlessly.   I get what you are saying, but it just adds another hinderance.  I do appreciate it.


Yes you can.
What do you have set here:
 

2017/01/09 13:48:37
AdamGrossmanLG
gustabo
I did speak to your points, just not the answers that you wanted.
I think I got you figured out snowflake.
You are tech phone support (script reader) for the software development company you work for and you get yelled at a lot.
This is your way of venting! "lol"


Nope. But I am starting to consider you harassing. Personal insults and guessing my career is not what this forum is for.

I suggest you refrain from it.
2017/01/09 13:49:08
AdamGrossmanLG
Bristol_Jonesey
SilverBlueMedallion
Genghis
FWIW I've watched your video.  It looks like if you would just disable input monitoring on your MIDI tracks unless you are actually using it you'd have things under control and your point would be moot, but then again I'm not the MIDI power user here.  At least on my system it only seems to work as Omni when you have input monitoring on, which kind of makes sense.  I mean, why would you turn on input monitoring and expect it to monitor nothing?




but then I can't switch track to track seamlessly.   I get what you are saying, but it just adds another hinderance.  I do appreciate it.


Yes you can.
What do you have set here:
 



Hello Bristol, I have that setting enabled.
Thank you!
2017/01/09 14:18:36
John
Adam I must say you do stand your ground. I admire that.  I can also see why you are saying the things you say. It may behoove CW to change how none and omni work in the input for MIDI tracks. That said, to me its not a problem. Never has been. There is no good reason to have a MIDI track that is empty with no input available for it. When i create a new MIDI track I always set it up to receive MIDI from my MIDI keyboard or my wind controller. I do have a CS as well as hardware synths, 3 of them. All can send out MIDI. Sonar works just fine for me.
 
I recall using Cubase some years back It was SX 1, 2 and 3. On occasion my CS would produce notes sounding on MIDI tracks. One reason was is there was no clear way to prevent Cubase from routing MIDI output to the MIDI tracks. Clearly an annoyance. Where here I really don't see a real problem. After all this has been the way Sonar has worked for as long as I can remember. Also it would seem that if it were a really awful bug don't you think the board would be lit up with complaints from the early days? It just doesn't bother us much. 
 
I would end this discussion here and send a bug report to CW or a feature request. We forum members are not equipped to do anything about it. This is a peer to peer forum not a way to contact Cakewalk.      
2017/01/09 14:23:04
AdamGrossmanLG
John
Adam I must say you do stand your ground. I admire that.  I can also see why you are saying the things you say. It may behoove CW to change how none and omni work in the input for MIDI tracks. That said, to me its not a problem. Never has been. There is no good reason to have a MIDI track that is empty with no input available for it. When i create a new MIDI track I always set it up to receive MIDI from my MIDI keyboard or my wind controller. I do have a CS as well as hardware synths, 3 of them. All can send out MIDI. Sonar works just fine for me.
 
I recall using Cubase some years back It was SX 1, 2 and 3. On occasion my CS would produce notes sounding on MIDI tracks. One reason was is there was no clear way to prevent Cubase from routing MIDI output to the MIDI tracks. Clearly an annoyance. Where here I really don't see a real problem. After all this has been the way Sonar has worked for as long as I can remember. Also it would seem that if it were a really awful bug don't you think the board would be lit up with complaints from the early days? It just doesn't bother us much. 
 
I would end this discussion here and send a bug report to CW or a feature request. We forum members are not equipped to do anything about it. This is a peer to peer forum not a way to contact Cakewalk.      




Hello John,
 
Thank you for the mature rational response.  I wish others spoke to me the same way, then I wouldn't have had to resort to such lows.

Anyway, I get what you are saying, why have a "none".   I was hoping it would stop MIDI data from erroneously entering the track, but who knows.  It also resorts to "omni" if you currently don't have your MIDI controller plugged in, which could cause issues.
 
I have been done a long time ago, the only reason this thread lives is because I respond to everyone.  I don't have to, but I choose to.   

Cakewalk is already involved with me via private message, so lets see what happens.

Thank You!
-Adam
 
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