• SONAR
  • The SONAR Mac Prototype, a collaboration between Cakewalk and CodeWeavers (p.14)
2017/04/20 18:46:28
eikelbijter
Sanderxpander
I really don't understand this Mac vs PC debate in a ProAudio context. Like Anderton put it, once you have your program open, you really don't deal with the OS much. I can spend hours in Sonar without needing anything else on the computer. Whether I have finder or Explorer, NTFS or HFS+ really doesn't matter 99 percent of the time. I'm quicker on Windows if I need to make a setting or do something else, but that's mostly relevant because I need to use my laptop for a bunch of things as I don't do studio work full-time. If I had a truly dedicated system it would make no difference to me what the OS was. I could even set Sonar/Logic to autorun on boot.



And right there is the proof that folks' love for MacOS is based on something completely different than usability! Is it fairy dust? Is it pure unadulterated courage? Kool-Aid?
 
On that same note: I can't not BELIEVE the snowflakes on here! I'm just glad they went to Mac and will not be interjecting questionable advice here anymore....pfffff!
2017/04/20 18:52:44
Starise
Thanks to Craig and others who better described the situation to those of us who aren't computer coders/porters.
 
We have some kind of a working prototype/example of Sonar on a mac . Who would have thought?
 
Congratulations to all those who worked so hard to make it happen!
 
 
2017/04/20 18:53:21
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
the AVB ethernet audio (i.e. connect your audio device via LAN) that MOTU offers for mac would be interesting, but again not interesting enough to splash out for a mac of similar specs as the the PCs I currently use ...
2017/04/20 19:09:50
Sir Les
 
 
Bravo CW...and the Madden crowds echo...when the going gets tough...We  at CW go backwards, to what is warm and fuzzy, and comfortable knowing how to keep the bug juices flowing...New gear saying, new words tooting, new things coming.....But always with a twisted bug hint of a hunt to persue, and tame?..or is it shame?...be it so, is so lax and lazy never does much if so left to others to do for you, what you should be doing on your own recoding...Not porting over!....Steinberg learnt that back in Atari days to MS windows....Patch and tweak did not work long if at all....Rewrite, recode works!
 
....And if future days or years or whatever comes next...?...Is another contender with bettering Code to run all in all ....Without such bloat and blare Bling bling, spooling and sending f intel...Some might enjoy a more robust experience with out cpu interruptions and such bottlenecks of drive issues and freezing...when MS is collecting data off of System devices to send...While in use doing what ever Sonar saves to those devices...testing 123s on...interruptious devination of devices...is a poor rule of thumb.
When it comes down to the one truth of all truths.....Who needs a computer anyway?....
 
Music comes from the heart of Living things first and foremost.
And Living things listen to music of all kinds of living things....No worries...Hum along with Humans is still da free value that always works best to go see do and always seems to get the job done with out too much effort to do in making without.
 
So as for Bakers who send out a process, and do not recode for, or rewrite for,...being lax or said lazy...We remember How Steinberg fared once upon a time...Porting over from Atari to MS...The patch and stitch method did not work.
 
As CW is in effect dropping the ball, because they will not do the leg work in baking it up themselves prime and proper.
 
They use the Proxy's failure  of the cross over mac app to dispel hope of something more stable for users?.....
 
Well, that is what life time updates means folks......circles in bug fixes. work arounds, and oddity of muse...until they "whom ever they be", decide to change it all up with a important new update rammed down the pipe line...to unsuspecting ...Bots....for now your machine is tied to Their whim and will,...We will break it when we do, and we will charge you to get it kind of going again...if we can....And if we can't....It is all paid by you anyway...So, we gain...You the user looses, if so be so, is so?...Well how many are there that have had their machine go belly up because of bad updates from MS?....I know a few myself..and some brought to me over a period also!
 
And that is the hat on the tin man's head, and thre cat's meow turned upside down....right CW?.
 
So ware it with Pride.
 
Studio one 3 works on both Mac and PC....Perhaps you should of tried harder asking people who have done it sort of Properly..they might of said...rewrite the code, do not port it over!
 
But then some digress in ignoring...known truth!
 
There is no easy way CW.
 
Regards.
 
Best wishes!
 
Sir Les.
 
 
 
 
 
 
2017/04/20 19:26:49
xiwix
Oh well - I was semi excited to tinker with some Sonar tracks with my MacBook on the train and I think I'll load it up just for fun and see what happens.
 
I'm thankful for the Sonar product and the clever lifetime marketing that has me contentedly locked in at this point.
 
Windows 10 will certainly give me some grief but I'll learn to manage and Apple is doing no better when I update with them either.
2017/04/20 20:05:53
soens
Sanderxpander
Really? Any remote desktop app should work, as well as a few dedicated controller apps.



I was more interested in screen mirroring. All the apps that are supposed to work that way have failed for me, tho I'm sure it's my doing (or undoing).
2017/04/20 20:18:00
paulo
stickman393
 
 
OT, but I'm surprised you didn't disable the Windows Update service.




I've been trying to do this on a w10 laptop because every update seems to screw up the printer settings and it seems that it is not possible unless you upgrade to win 10 pro. If you know how to turn off updates on w10 home edition I'd be very happy to hear it.
 
Back on topic..... I have no interest at all in mac version, but CW should have just done all of this in the background before saying anything. They made a really big deal out of announcing it, so IMO it's not surprising that people who do care about it are very disappointed now and feel like they were somewhat mislead. It's funny how CW and the resident spin doctor keep referring to what was "actually said" when the announcement was made, yet removed all trace of that announcement several weeks before admitting that it was a bust so that nobody can refer back to it.
 
Anyway, now that they have their focus back, hopefully this will mean that the upcoming updates will be more inspiring than they have been of late, so that has to be good, right?
2017/04/20 20:36:49
Sanderxpander
I would definitely recommend going to Win10 pro.
2017/04/20 20:39:37
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
C Hudson
Try running a 7 year old PC with the latest versions of windows. Sludgefest. 



I have an older PC built in 2008 that was updated to Win10. Works much better than it did in Win 7 and boots way faster. I've had no problems with the OS there.
Anyway besides all this debate about Mac and PC I hope some of the people who were interested in a Mac version actually try the alpha. 
2017/04/20 21:04:42
subtlearts
This nearly 10 year old Q6600 runs better under win10 than it ever has. It takes a while to start - something I'm going to try to address with an SSD - but then it always did, really. And it's loading a truckload of stuff - it's a multi-use machine and I've never really streamlined it for dedicated DAW use. It's run XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and all flavours of 10. I imagine I would be freaked out at the performance of a modern desktop rig at this point, but this one still gets the job done and I haven't felt the need to retire it yet...
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