Q6600 is a great workhorse, the difference from an SSD should give your system new life as long as you're not near to hitting CPU barriers in your projects. Whole albums have been done on much punier hardware.

Sanderxpander
Q6600 is a great workhorse, the difference from an SSD should give your system new life as long as you're not near to hitting CPU barriers in your projects. Whole albums have been done on much punier hardware.

I've done a lot on this one! Yeah I've been meaning to slot in the SSD for a while, it's been a long time since I've done anything like that so I've been putting it off but I think the time is right. I do challenge the CPU on occasion if I'm using a lot of VSTi (which is pretty common) but I have never had a big problem managing it all with freezing and latency and so on. 

Good decision cakewalk.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

C Hudson
Try running a 7 year old PC with the latest versions of windows. Sludgefest. 

I have an older PC built in 2008 that was updated to Win10. Works much better than it did in Win 7 and boots way faster. I've had no problems with the OS there.
Anyway besides all this debate about Mac and PC I hope some of the people who were interested in a Mac version actually try the alpha. 

Hey Noel,
As stated earlier, I've had several Win10 workstations have their OS's just eat themselves alive , either while updating, or just out of the blue. I've had more stability issues with win 10 than any other version of Windows. Sometimes safe mode works, some times not. Just has really left a bad taste in my mouth for the current state of Windows. 
As for people trying the Mac build, It's kind of pointless to get too excited about it after you've announced it's a dead horse with no future. 
Gibson has a terrible reputation with music technology companies. Hopefully they continue to give you what you need to make Sonar awesome ( which it is ) on Windows. Was hoping they would have increased your team for Mac software . 
 

Sir Les
 
 
Bravo CW...and the Madden crowds echo...when the going gets tough...We  at CW go backwards, to what is warm and fuzzy, and comfortable knowing how to keep the bug juices flowing...New gear saying, new words tooting, new things coming.....But always with a twisted bug hint of a hunt to persue, and tame?..or is it shame?...be it so, is so lax and lazy never does much if so left to others to do for you, what you should be doing on your own recoding...Not porting over!....Steinberg learnt that back in Atari days to MS windows....Patch and tweak did not work long if at all....Rewrite, recode works!
 
....And if future days or years or whatever comes next...?...Is another contender with bettering Code to run all in all ....Without such bloat and blare Bling bling, spooling and sending f intel...Some might enjoy a more robust experience with out cpu interruptions and such bottlenecks of drive issues and freezing...when MS is collecting data off of System devices to send...While in use doing what ever Sonar saves to those devices...testing 123s on...interruptious devination of devices...is a poor rule of thumb.
When it comes down to the one truth of all truths.....Who needs a computer anyway?....
 
Music comes from the heart of Living things first and foremost.
And Living things listen to music of all kinds of living things....No worries...Hum along with Humans is still da free value that always works best to go see do and always seems to get the job done with out too much effort to do in making without.
 
So as for Bakers who send out a process, and do not recode for, or rewrite for,...being lax or said lazy...We remember How Steinberg fared once upon a time...Porting over from Atari to MS...The patch and stitch method did not work.
 
As CW is in effect dropping the ball, because they will not do the leg work in baking it up themselves prime and proper.
 
They use the Proxy's failure  of the cross over mac app to dispel hope of something more stable for users?.....
 
Well, that is what life time updates means folks......circles in bug fixes. work arounds, and oddity of muse...until they "whom ever they be", decide to change it all up with a important new update rammed down the pipe line...to unsuspecting ...Bots....for now your machine is tied to Their whim and will,...We will break it when we do, and we will charge you to get it kind of going again...if we can....And if we can't....It is all paid by you anyway...So, we gain...You the user looses, if so be so, is so?...Well how many are there that have had their machine go belly up because of bad updates from MS?....I know a few myself..and some brought to me over a period also!
 
And that is the hat on the tin man's head, and thre cat's meow turned upside down....right CW?.
 
So ware it with Pride.
 
Studio one 3 works on both Mac and PC....Perhaps you should of tried harder asking people who have done it sort of Properly..they might of said...rewrite the code, do not port it over!
 
But then some digress in ignoring...known truth!
 
There is no easy way CW.
 
Regards.
 
Best wishes!
 
Sir Les.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Anyone understand this?
Anyone read this all the way?

No, and no.

azslow3
 

Starise
What makes some competitors software better suited to multi porting? Writing two distinct copies from the ground up? If so, why not write a Mac copy from the ground up? My hunch is that this was very expensive and not really viable in light of sales projections. I had hoped it could be done, even if it was a more simplistic version if only for the sake of having that market open.

 
If you write the code as a "fruit" right at the beginning, it is easier to make "apple" and "orange" out of it.
 

+1 for the best answer to a complex question! 
 
I can imagine that after 30 years, Cakewalk in mostly "orange".
 
There are at least couple of younger companies that have managed to use the "fruit" concept in developing their products so that they are now cross platform with Windows, Mac, and Linux.  For example, Tracktion and Bitwig.
 
But I doubt that these cross platform apps will ever be able to fully leverage the power of Windows.  By remaining vendor neutral regarding the OS, there are likely to be some features of the full native OS missing in their implementation.

My opinion echoes some in the industry as Anderton put it. Apple really doesn't play well with intense software unless you run an Apple Wastebasket (Mac Pro). Their laptops leave a lot to be desired as far as performance, and with "heated" reasons. They're not really about professionals anymore (at least not as they were). They are rooted more strongly these days with consumers, which seems to be where their customer-base is.

I still feel strongly that Apple hardware, or at least Unix-based kernel hardware and OS's is a thing, and still growing stronger. Windows is only one OS, and Microsoft can still poop in their own pudding. Sonar should be made to run on a Mac, but not as an emulation as it seems was the idea here. I'd rather see it go away as an emulation or survive and thrive as a natively run app.

I'm ok, personally with it running in Windows 10. Windows 10 is pretty darn efficient with SSD storage, and Sonar does quite well there. My installation of the Mac Prototype didn't even run, so I couldn't tell you if it was great or not.
As he also said, Apple may get serious in hardware/OS power in the near future, so who knows?

Valiant efforts!!

Anyone have troubles getting the audio drivers to work correctly within the Mac Prototype? I have an RME Fireface 800 where system audio plays back fine through it's SPDIF (Youtube, iTunes etc.) but I can't get Sonar to pick it up.
If I choose ASIO within Sonar nothing happens. I can only get Sonar to scan the Fireface when I choose WASAPI or MME I can see the Fireface outputs (only 1-8) but obviously in WASAPI or MME, those aren't for Mac. I put it aside last night 'cause it was a head scratcher. 

paulo

stickman393
 
 
OT, but I'm surprised you didn't disable the Windows Update service.

I've been trying to do this on a w10 laptop because every update seems to screw up the printer settings and it seems that it is not possible unless you upgrade to win 10 pro. If you know how to turn off updates on w10 home edition I'd be very happy to hear it.
 

To turn off Windows update in W10, follow these instructions.
https://mspoweruser.com/turn-off-windows-update-windows-10/
 
Just remember, Windows Update is a service, so turning the service off means you will be responsible for keeping your computer updated. When you turn off the service, you turn off the ability to automatically update anything Microsoft. You can however, if you use Windows Defender as your antivirus, update that program manually without turning on the WUpdate service. If you do turn off the service, you will have to go back to the Services and turn it on once in a while to download and update your copy of Windows.
 
After you turn the Windows Update service back on, when you open Windows Update in PC Settings, you will most likely see a message that says updates were not installed because computer was stopped. You will have to click on Retry so that all the available updates are downloaded and installed. This may take two or three “Check for Updates”. You will have to keep on clicking “Check for updates” until it says your computer is up to date. Then you can go back and turn off the Windows Update service until next time you want to update Win 10.
 
If your laptop receives all of its updates via wireless connection, you can set your network connection to "Metered". That tact, however, just delays the inevitable.
 
Ciao