• SONAR
  • The SONAR Mac Prototype, a collaboration between Cakewalk and CodeWeavers (p.17)
2017/04/22 16:20:55
outland144k
 
 
 
paulo
In the end I did the metered connection thing as you suggested because I'n sick to death of the win 10 updates screwing up the ability to print anything via wireless connection.



Whoa, thanks for saying this! What is a metered connection and did your printer act like it couldn't clear the job it just printed out of its cache and lock up for like a half hour? I'd like to get that fixed for sure.
 
2017/04/22 18:01:00
paulo
In network settings there is a "set as metered connection" setting which apparently blocks updates of anything without your permission due to implied download limits. It's not ideal and I don't know if has fixed the issue for sure yet - it's working at the moment so time will tell I guess, but one thing for sure is that every time the problem arises a look at windows update history will tell you that it has recently been updated - I don't believe that is a coincidence unless someone can tell me otherwise.
 
FYI, the printer issue is that when attempting to print it says that the printer is offline and the job just sits in the print queue. It isn't offline as it it still works fine using my win8 pc when the w10 is saying that it is offline. Running the win 10 troubleshooter is no use at all as it will tell you that the printer isn't even switched on and must be switched on before it can run diagnosis. Rebooting the printer has no effect on this and if there is a way on win 10 to change the simply printer status from offline to online then I'm yet to find it. Restarting the print spooler worked once, but didn't on the latest occasion.
2017/04/23 01:11:57
chriso1515
should've expected it--*perfectly* in keeping with some really poor decision making over the years and it breaks my heart. was really hoping to see a native mac sonar. (had i known it was a "run windows apps on a mac" solution i never would've gotten my hopes up.)
2017/04/23 01:17:35
Markubl2
I have no strong opinion on Cakewalk ceasing the Mac project, but I find the PC vs Mac debate silly.  You use what you like.   Everyone has their own opinion and experiences.  
 
Personally, I don't like Macs or IOS.   In my day job, I manage several IT departments.   In our companies, the Macs have proven to be very problematic, and IOS simply too limiting.   After receiving management support, I met with the Mac groups (mostly creative types) and let them know we were moving them to PCs.  Obviously, that decision was not very popular at the time.   I even had two Mac users resign their jobs because of it.  
 
Several months later, I checked in with the groups.  Almost to a person, the current attitude was "Meh, I guess it doesn't really matter - once I'm in Photoshop I don't even notice."
 
 
2017/04/23 01:35:49
vladasyn
Great news! Happy! No Apple take over on horizon! Been hurt by Apple taking over Emagic Logic once. What a relieve! No more Mac! Lets focus on Microsoft Windows! I have good feeling that Microsoft will not let us down. Until Apple allows their OS on custom built computers, I have no interest in apple. Good for us!
2017/04/23 01:49:27
abacab
husker
 
Several months later, I checked in with the groups.  Almost to a person, the current attitude was "Meh, I guess it doesn't really matter - once I'm in Photoshop I don't even notice."
 



My take is that an OS is just a framework to hang an application from.  Once you are using the application, the OS should not be a major concern. 
2017/04/23 01:50:34
abacab
vladasyn
 
Until Apple allows their OS on custom built computers, I have no interest in apple. Good for us!




+1
2017/04/23 01:53:16
Blades
I was actually a little surprised when this news came out the other day.  Personally, I'm somewhere between "I don't care" and "yahoo" but there is definitely a bit of "you mislead people" with the release announcement.  For a few reasons, this is bothersome:
 
1. You said this as part of a MAJOR announcement and there was a LOT of fanfare around this statement to hype up what a big deal it was going to be.
 
2. You called it an ALPHA release.  Generally, this would be a release of a project that was being BUILD not one that was being "adapted" to another OS/CPU.  The whole idea that this was just a conversion and not a re-write for Mac was not what I was expecting (as someone who has no Mac interest and therefore didn't really care about such a release except that it seemed likely to disrupt the PC development) and I have to think that Mac people were pretty hurt by this news.
 
It kind of seems like if we suddenly heard that the labeling of "USDA 100% Organic" on food labels meant something like "we took the non-organic stuff and washed it in organic cleaners".
 
Again - I'm pretty happy in general that the end-result is that Cakewalk will continue to spend their time, money, and effort on enhancing the PC version of the software, but it doesn't give me great confidence in the MESSAGE that the company sends to their user base.  There was a lot of paranoia about the "lifetime updates" (which I have purchased) expiring or being replaced with a new product that was really a continuation of Sonar called Radar or something and Cakewalk being able to "get out of" the lifetime updates because of a product name change.  With this Mac announcement, that paranoia sounds a little less "reaching", I think.
 
Must. Work. On. Trust.
2017/04/23 03:25:34
forkol
Blades
I was actually a little surprised when this news came out the other day.  Personally, I'm somewhere between "I don't care" and "yahoo" but there is definitely a bit of "you mislead people" with the release announcement.  For a few reasons, this is bothersome:
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Yes, they stated when they did the quick demo that it wasn't some kind of "Bootcamp trick, but the real deal".  That to me was at least very misleading, if not just outright untrue.  If anything, this solution seems more 'trick' than straight Bootcamp.
 
2017/04/23 04:31:42
Earwax
bitman
Earwax
 
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Thanks in advance!


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