• SONAR
  • The SONAR Mac Prototype, a collaboration between Cakewalk and CodeWeavers (p.21)
2017/04/25 08:07:11
RSMCGUITAR
Sanderxpander
I know you quoted me but I have no idea what you mean, sorry.


Don't worry, no one ever knows what he means... just forum clogging rambling.
2017/04/25 08:34:15
Sir Les
Yes but, I was contemplating a LES PAUL Guitar in house one day.
 
And I got the Omega , so no worries there!
 
Are you reasoning it out?.....Lordy lord....Cash Cow....Lies and liars....Not withstanding much ...And where is Truth?.
 
If it be, as is....And it is as I see it, and I do not think I Put error into my Builds...Yet they do err much.
 
How is it?.
 
Again Truths have funny ways of saying, or causing...If Lies be with it....then, it will never be completely stable, or bugless, or updated to its full potential....Because of that Error instilled into it by word, hexi, or other...Put to keep it being paid for.
 
Now, Tech is always updating...and things pass away in time to a new thingy dingy...standard...or such.
 
And here hear in the Word of communications......Some tease me with >>>>in other words<<<<Hate what is, is.....
 
Enough Proof is witnessed as of....
 
And I do not find it worth the Words on the Box so far....Works with Windows....to my understandings Properly...as of yet...But then, I put the PC down for a while.
 
I know a OS will run the x99 other than...MS OS>
 
And so...if No sonar ever did work out properly as was noted....From my perspective of what You cannot see here....Is my word of my truth, you do not have, or know.
 
 
So how can you,.....Understand....If I have words that Prove ;.....Money is a lie....and if it is put in front or behind or over....or for.....It does not work in Terms of Principles!
 
 
 
I Know I read it somewhere , Once upon a time.....It taints it everything when put into the mix......Eh?...or was it uttered in the wind holding that mercy back for a while in time with Grace over put?
 
Ah.
 
 
Cheers
2017/04/25 08:37:43
azslow3
RSMCGUITAR
Sanderxpander
I know you quoted me but I have no idea what you mean, sorry.

Don't worry, no one ever knows what he means... just forum clogging rambling.

I normally read his posts and sometimes I even think I understand the meaning (at least partially).
But just imagine you are working as phone support and he is calling...
2017/04/25 14:40:23
brconflict
Anderton
There were some comments about how using Codeweavers was misleading, but my understanding is that the concept of starting off with translation and then replacing parts of the code until the program is fully native is fairly common. (IIRC that's what's happening with FL Studio's Mac version.)
 
 


Yeah, that's what I was hoping to have understood. I wouldn't have expected the solution was to keep it an emulation for the most part, but I've seen that happen before in another industry and it was a colossal failure. Macs in general, unless you get the Apple wastebasket are not the best performing machines. Thanks for the clarification.  


2017/04/25 15:14:13
Anderton
forkol
Anderton
There were some comments about how using Codeweavers was misleading, but my understanding is that the concept of starting off with translation and then replacing parts of the code until the program is fully native is fairly common. (IIRC that's what's happening with FL Studio's Mac version.)
 

 
I think it was misleading by omission.  Saying that this was the 'real deal' 'Sonar running on a Mac' 'and not using any Bootcamp Trick' leads you to believe it's native.

 
Well, if Cakewalk had continued down this path, eventually (accent on "eventually") it would have become more and more native. So calling it an emulation or calling it native would be equally incorrect.
 
Kind of reminds me of Vista in a way. Microsoft kept doing updates to it and after a while, it essentially became Windows 7 even though it still said it was Vista.
 
It's also important to note that this is not the same world as trying to emulate Windows Intel on a Mac PPC machine. The Intel-to-Intel element makes life easier.
 
Why would somebody want an emulation when they could have Sonar with Bootcamp that performs much better? 

 
To be able to access the Mac parts of the computer (files etc.). Bootcamp turns your Mac into a PC, so anything that's "pure Mac" doesn't exist. Also again if Cakewalk had pursued this, it would have become more native over time, whereas that wouldn't happen under bootcamp.
 
2017/04/25 15:58:51
dantarbill
Sir Les
Yes but, I was contemplating a LES PAUL Guitar in house one day.
And I got the Omega , so no worries there!
Are you reasoning it out?.....Lordy lord....Cash Cow....Lies and liars....Not withstanding much ...And where is Truth?.
If it be, as is....And it is as I see it, and I do not think I Put error into my Builds...Yet they do err much.
 How is it?.
Again Truths have funny ways of saying, or causing...If Lies be with it....then, it will never be completely stable, or bugless, or updated to its full potential....Because of that Error instilled into it by word, hexi, or other...Put to keep it being paid for.
Now, Tech is always updating...and things pass away in time to a new thingy dingy...standard...or such.
And here hear in the Word of communications......Some tease me with >>>>in other words<<<<Hate what is, is.....
Enough Proof is witnessed as of....
And I do not find it worth the Words on the Box so far....Works with Windows....to my understandings Properly...as of yet...But then, I put the PC down for a while.
I know a OS will run the x99 other than...MS OS>
And so...if No sonar ever did work out properly as was noted....From my perspective of what You cannot see here....Is my word of my truth, you do not have, or know.
So how can you,.....Understand....If I have words that Prove ;.....Money is a lie....and if it is put in front or behind or over....or for.....It does not work in Terms of Principles!
I Know I read it somewhere , Once upon a time.....It taints it everything when put into the mix......Eh?...or was it uttered in the wind holding that mercy back for a while in time with Grace over put?
Ah.
 
Cheers



I thought people had finally quit taking those kinda drugs back in the 70's.
 
(Do you share?)
2017/04/25 17:07:06
Anderton
Show of hands: How many have actually downloaded and tried the Mac version? I sure like it more than GarageBand...
2017/04/25 17:11:12
LLyons
I am happy with the decision.  I also want to tell the developers - good job in trying.  
 
LL
2017/04/25 18:12:38
WDI
Anderton
Show of hands: How many have actually downloaded and tried the Mac version? I sure like it more than GarageBand...

 
My guess is not too many people are interested in it after hearing that it's Sonar Home Studio and a "Windows-to-Mac translator" version and that the "prototype" is the "end of the line for SONAR on the Mac" which I understand means no further development. So what's the point really? My interest was initially sparked by the idea of being able to natively run Sonar on Mac to open 15 years or so of Sonar projects rather than having to export the Sonar projects as OMF. But in reality Sonar would have to up it's game considerably for me to be interested. There are so many things in Logic that work good where Sonar just had some problems. In all fairness to Cakewalk the last version I used was Sonar 7. But I do check out Cakewalk to see what they've been up to.
 
As far as comparing it to GarageBand it's really not a comparison when GarageBand runs on iOS very nicely. I've completed many songs just using an iPhone. And these songs open up in either GarageBand or Logic on Mac. Not sure about the Sonar Home Studio for Mac prototype, but GarageBand offers a pretty extensive library of plugins and instruments.
2017/04/25 18:29:47
brconflict
I downloaded and tried it, but it wouldn't run on my Mac. It errors out as damaged or incomplete.
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