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2017/04/26 22:16:14
Pragi
Sir Les
RSMCGUITAR
I am now much dumber, having read that.




 
That said....Dumb and Dummer.....


But now  I know, off course, you are a drummer
2017/04/26 22:24:23
Sir Les
Here is a lesson to learn of World under Dominion of democratic musings.
 
David Sazuki went into the rain forest...and spoke to a tribes men chief, about the western worlds incoming greedy spying out Land not theirs to take without asking, onto, into his lands blocked by walls put, and words said to not enter.
 
Those brought to speak for western world, said, Wealth is in your lands, and you can be rich, if you let us get it for you.
 
The chief said....Is it in our lands this wealth?.
The western invaders said, Yes.
 
The chief said, then leave it where it is, and go away , for if my land is rich, Then all upon it are also!
 
Did they listen to reason?....No, they still survey the lands, and take without permission, and now seek oil and other things out of the ground to dig up, and ruin the lungs of the Earth for pollution and or wealth!...not caring, never shared, and always fighting for....Now they seek to wipe out those tribes to get in without a fight....By way of war....Call them savages....Put them in a bad light...in the way of progress.....And many will say....It has been done before, and ...that is the way we do it....
 
 
Is it right to do?...and if done this way always as is history.......IS IT RIGHTEOUSNESS?.....If opposed by one or some....and it is not the land to take...But ask, if asking...and no is the reply.....Then?....That is the problem with lies and liars......You cannot Trust them to understand NO...or YES....As those terms do not matter, for they always do the opposite of whatever is said as truth!....if it be truth told.....They go the other way!
 
And that is one reason why some say they ware ties around their necks....easier to hang by!
 
Yet even they tighten it around the neck of themselves....Thinking how smart and snug it is doing it...until.
 
Crash!.
 
2017/04/26 22:54:45
Sir Les
Pragi
Sir Les
RSMCGUITAR
I am now much dumber, having read that.




 
That said....Dumb and Dummer.....


But now  I know, off course, you are a drummer


And if I am Judged falsely for being....It is because I did not learn the ways of ruin.....Fracking it up for wealth....surely shows the foolish are worse off, when nothing but dust is left to eat....They might come to reason too late!....And some on the western side of the wall......Are waring masks to breathe,...and many things dying from unknown sicknesses......And the water tainted by...and the life...made to suffer much pain....And yet they still do the outlandish stupidity onward they do, knowing full well it is not well to do...But they do it for wealth...not life!
 
For they care not for living things...Right?...dumb, is not taught...That is not a error....That is a attribute of not being taught.
 
If so taught what is good, and not good..or very Good to perfect....And they do the perfect thing and stay dumb...because of monsters being made by...And they saw, and they know....Yoke around the necks of them whom harm the Earth or EA...Gyah....Will suffer ....And they do?...Yep!
 
Now back to reason.
 
Cause and effect....Only the ones who made all, can now save this planet.....And they will not come until...All is said as was said by he whom made all .....And in likeness it is made.....Given!..shared, well attended to do, and do in attendance of Truth and good will.
 
Is that coming out of the mouth of babes today, if father and mother say what to me?.
 
Well more learning cometh this way wicked....And you lock your doors....why?...scared of what was made on the other side of this are we?...need a nuke?....be mindful of what the hand has made to spite the means....of what was done...for...is to gain the intent back proper.
 
Now, If this earth has a end...And I know it doesn't really end....It sure has stud a testament of time under foolish care takers...ruining all of it for wealth sake....Not health sake?...wow
 
I like dumber in care over all living in good stewardship more so ....if not knowing...But seeing is believing....I believe safe is best then sorry keeping it clean and well cared for with Truth and in some cases love of life be a true reward in health over put all in all....and why sorry if best is put to task to do, and it is done...first to make?
 
 
No sorrys!...forgiveness is for those in sin, seeing and knowing, and asking for to be forgiven 77 x 11....Those who clean themselves of it...Need not be held under any Judgement...But tested are we not all?...Proof?...and why do we need troubleshooters?....Because trouble is with something being upheld....so it is never solved for?....well, test the resolve and see....But you know those who say...it cannot be done....only will say it to keep the idol in play!
 
Know them by their fruits.
 
And keep the commandments of Life....and live doing more than they can!
2017/04/26 23:18:09
awake1994
AndertonBut even with laptops in the mix, Apple's share of PC users has dropped to a five-year low and Macs were the biggest market share losers in 2016. Those are not the kind of stats that will make a company like Cakewalk feel all warm and fuzzy about breaking into the market. At least you'd want to break into a growing market.

Maybe. My though about this is, nobody knows exactly the counts of this or that. If a stakeholder loves Windows, OSX will loose and vice versa. In the world of creatives we do have BOTH worlds and the revenue kicks OSX away. Maybe. But this is NOT the point! I like your very professional approach, it's great. But we don't have a "Musical OS", we have an OS we have to work with and sometimes we must leave the DAW-Cocoon.
I'm not an Apple-Fanboy and I don't like the yearly "great update" of OSX, it's unprofessional I though, but in the last couple of month for me, Windows is a mess. It begins with dozens VST-Path and ends up with the deep knowledge how to pick up the interface. Again, it's a mess and it gave me no more benefits, no 1ms more latency but more "Sonar didn't response" than Cubase or Studio One. I've never do something "under the hood" while on OSX, it still works.
2017/04/27 00:39:39
kevinwal
It isn't a perfect OS to be sure, but I personally find Windows to be a fabulous platform for making music. I'm not as long in the tooth Cakewalk-wise as many members here are having only been using Sonar since 7.0 (what was that, 2002-ish?) but Cakewalk and Windows has always been a very stable dynamic duo for me personally. Edit: I include Windows 10 in that assessment too, including the most recent Creator's update.
 
Granted, I do not use Sonar as a vehicle for making a living, but if I did I would be pretty careful to not do anything that might jeopardize the stability of the platform, including managing backups and software updates and thoughtful selection of the hardware and software components that make up the system. That includes using the right OS version (pro vs. home edition) with the right enabling features for the task at hand. In fact I'd probably turn to a pro to help me set all that stuff up and to provide ongoing support.
 
That said, I do use my computer to make my living and my customers do too, some in pretty unfriendly environments managed by often indifferent IT people, and interfacing with a pretty large variety of wildly proprietary devices and remote services of sometimes dubious stability. Windows has almost never the problem in any of the many operational calamities I've dealt with over the years. The one time it was was due to an IT staff oversight, and it was quickly found and dealt with.
 
Like Craig says, the OS is an appliance. The fact is, Windows is an astonishingly capable and stable appliance despite the mind-boggling variety of devices it runs on and the stupefying array of devices it can talk to. 
 
I am personally looking forward to hearing Cakewalk's plans for being the first virtual-reality enabled DAW on HoloLens. How about it, Noel? :)
2017/04/27 01:14:34
C Hudson
backwoods
"Also of note, Windows penetration is now below 90 %, does that mean crisis for that camp too? I'm not too concerned :)"
 
 
lol %90 is a hell of a lot better than %3


As I said, I'm not worried:)
FWIW Craig's data only had 1 version of Mac OS. The 90 % has every flavour of windows. Semantics I know, as all totalled most likely still 7% , but billy bob in the trailer park running his 250 dollar Walmart notebook that runs windows is part of that 90% . There are millions more billy bobs than there are audio professionals running windows so any discussions about its merits based on how many people run windows vs how many run macs is kind of silly. More people will run windows for the foreseeable future because it can run on a broad scope of hardware and as such, can be installed on el cheapo machines and high end machines. I bet el cheapo out sells top tier 1000:1. Just a guess, but I bet not far off . Let's go make some music now....
2017/04/27 03:04:07
tlw
brconflict
I'm actually an Ubuntu fan, and Linux OS's are by far some of the most reliable and speediest OS's on the planet, relied upon by the savviest of businesses. My company uses Linux machines in physical and AWS cloud-based form to much success. This is why WINE could potentially be pretty fast. The OS underneath is stripped down of nearly everything else that's intensive. Windows and Mac OS can't easily be so stripped down, unfortunately. 


Windows not so easily of at all, but MacOS is essentially a Unix system that includes a lot of open source software, including most of the everyday Gnu and Unix tools with the proprietary Aqua interface and applications on top. As a system it seems and feels less resource intensive than Windows and less inclined to leave you with no option other than forcing a reboot using the power switch when an application goes into a bottomless boggle and refuses to respond. Though that does happen once in a rare while.

Apple make their base open source Unix system freely available to anyone who wants it. It's called Apple Darwin.
https://opensource.apple....lease/macos-10124.html

So if you want a Mac stripped down to a terminal and X Windows system, there you pretty much go. Don't know if it would run on non Apple hardware though, or with a different kernel and set of drivers.
2017/04/27 03:45:54
ampfixer
I'm convinced that Sir Les is completely automated. Just sayin'.
2017/04/27 03:46:31
RSMCGUITAR
More like medicated
2017/04/27 05:11:57
jackson white
more like blocked. 
 
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